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Old 02-13-2016, 09:02 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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An Engineer Explains Why Trump's Wall Is So Implausible

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No. Donald Trump is not a builder. Donald Trump could not build a doghouse. Donald Trump is a developer who pays what he would call “very, very smart people” to build things on his behalf. His response to Ramos’ question was meant both to exaggerate his understanding of construction and to downplay the challenges posed by his border wall project.
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The challenge of Trump’s border wall is not technical, but logistical. The leap in complexity between “building a wall” and “building a 2,000-mile-long continuous border wall in the desert” is about equal to the gap between “killing a guy” and “waging a protracted land war.” Trump’s border wall, if built as he has described it, would be one of the largest civil works projects in the history of the country and would face an array of challenges not found when constructing 95-story skyscrapers.
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As for making Mexico pay for it, exactly how? Mexico has no obligation to pay anything. Oh, Trump said that he'll deduct it from Mexico's foreign aide. Some estimates for the cost of the wall is $25 billion. Mexico's foreign aide grant is about $250 million a year. That would mean it would take a hundred years, not counting the time value of money, to pay for it.
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Old 02-13-2016, 09:12 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Please answer. Since when has America become a monarchy?
well, long answers short,

The Postal Service is losing millions a year to help you buy cheap stuff from China. How is that fair trade?

Many struggling middle class make decent part time income selling on ebay just years ago, now they have to compete with millions of chinese sellers selling goods directly from China.

But as Chinese companies began logging on to Web marketplaces like eBay, Amazon, and Alibaba, they started taking advantage of the shipping deal to sell directly to American consumers. And so it’s never been easier to get something cheap and Chinese delivered to your door for a startlingly low price: $4.64 for a digital alarm clock; $2.50 for a folding knife; $1.88 for an iPhone cable — all with shipping included.

This is not FREE MARKET at work, this is government interfering with free market. At the same time. Post office is losing MILLIONS a year. Your domestic shipping cost is almost the same as international shipping cost from China, and you have to wonder

WTF?

Yes, start with post office would be my first strategy if I were the president. This is just an example to show you how insane this country has become. I've never seen anything like it.
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Old 02-13-2016, 09:19 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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Incorrect. Trump can employ the full power of the Executive Branch, he can also
shape Federal judiciaries, marshals and agencies in his own likeness, and greatly
influence the Legislature, and the media. There is not one single facet of his
stated plans which he would be unable to implement. If he is the nominee of
the GOP you will see the platform take shape around his idea
s.
Of course, none of this is true.

The GOP can't stand him and they are not going to endorse his ideas or vote them through.

He will accomplish nothing of what he promises.
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Old 02-13-2016, 09:20 AM
 
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I agree that it's things like this that do have people flocking to Trump. I guess my question is - what could he do to stop this particular company from doing what they just did.

There is so much that has been tossed out the door in previous years. We could enact tariffs for imports. We could have better international trade agreements than we do now. Perot told people what would happen if NAFTA was inacted and it did. Free trade policies hurt the American worker every time. Anyone could do this - but only Trump talked about it and that's the person that people remember because he started his campaign addressing the issues normal Americans are concerned about.

Had any other candidate come out and instead of continually voicing their achievements - stated what was wrong with the country - thus appealing to the middle and lower classes - whether that candidate had a plan or not - they would have started a movement that you now see Trump leading.

Obama offered hope and change - people believed him and followed him - even after he was unable to fulfill any of those promises after 4 yrs - he still promised hope and change and people still believed - so even if Trump does nothing if he wins - there will always be those that follow him. People need something to believe in - even if it's has a snowball's chance in h double e hockey sticks - hence the popilarity of our lotteries!
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Old 02-13-2016, 09:23 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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The soldiers are getting paid whether they're overseas, watching the border or playing volleyball. How is it not cost efficient to use them as border patrol?

Using military securing the border, you might not need a wall.

This said, secure that Canadian border too, I don't care who gets offended. You don't have a country if you don't have a border.
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Old 02-13-2016, 09:30 AM
 
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Of course, none of this is true.

The GOP can't stand him and they are not going to endorse his ideas or vote them through.

He will accomplish nothing of what he promises.
I guess you can say that if it makes you feel better.
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Old 02-13-2016, 09:39 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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I guess you can say that if it makes you feel better.
I see you have nothing to refute it. You know it's true. No one in Congress is going to work with Trump.
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Old 02-13-2016, 09:42 AM
 
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Of course, none of this is true.

The GOP can't stand him and they are not going to endorse his ideas or vote them through.

He will accomplish nothing of what he promises.

They may not stand him - but if they want to keep their jobs they'll work with him. Are you forgetting how many Dems lost their seats or how many Tea Party politicians were elected. If they like their job - they can keep it - but only if they're doing right by the people that elected them - we do still have the upper hand every election!
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Old 02-13-2016, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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Using military securing the border, you might not need a wall.
My son made a point that is relevant to your remark. You can't take down the wall with an executive order nor can you NOT "enforce" it. It is just there. Troops would be sent home with a phone call.
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Old 02-13-2016, 10:06 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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My son made a point that is relevant to your remark. You can't take down the wall with an executive order nor can you NOT "enforce" it. It is just there. Troops would be sent home with a phone call.
True that.

But if Trump is our president, troops would not be sent home

But I know what you are saying.
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