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Old 02-13-2016, 05:41 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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The problem with Trump is that he has alienated everyone from both parties. Even if elected he doesn't have the power to write budgets and enact them into law. He can't force congress to bend to his will. Obama enjoys nearly unconditional support from the left and he has been stooped cold many times.
You vastly underestimate the power of strategic negotiation.
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Old 02-13-2016, 05:49 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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Sanders is well intentioned, he is just proposing irresponsible ideas that cannot be paid for........ yet.
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Old 02-13-2016, 06:09 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Trump is for Trump. Always has been. Dont get fooled so easily by this guy. He will play along to get along when he needs to to suit his needs. He just said last week that he can change just like that to whatever he needs to be.

This man would do a deal with Satan if it benefited him, and you all know it. No, he didn't donate to and pal around with liberals like the Clintons and Pelosi because theyre great friends. He did it because he has no morals and he needed to do what he had to do for $$$$ reasons. He is an outright fraud and playing all of you for fools.

At the very start, I liked the guy. That's before I knew much about him. He didn't change along the way because he evolved on beliefs or morals. He changes when it suits him best. He has no real value, beliefs or morals. The only thing he cares about is Trump; Im not sure how that can't be any more obvious. He doesnt hide it very well.
You assume all voters are values voters first, just like others assume voters are experience voters first or issues voters first or ideology voters first.

I voted for the guy because I think he can get the job done. He doesn't have a bureaucratic mentality. He's used to doing things effectively and efficiently to make a profit. He's flexible on process not on goals. I'd like the country run that way.

I don't want the President of the United States dictating my personal values and beliefs. They have bigger fish to fry.
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Old 02-13-2016, 06:26 AM
 
Location: NY
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Sanders is well intentioned, he is just proposing irresponsible ideas that cannot be paid for........ yet.
Once you adopt Sanders policies you become a full fledged vassal of the federal government, and IMO the majority of people aren't ready for that step. Socialism is tempting, but you surrender all freedom.
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Old 02-13-2016, 06:38 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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It is not about his money, it is about his ego.

As a reality show host, he sees the Presidential Election as the biggest possible stage for a reality show.

Has anything in Don's past shown he wants to serve his country?
Here's a good example of how his superior business sense was used for the benefit of all. The Wollman Rink.

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Exactly the same kind of mentality we need in the White House.
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Old 02-13-2016, 06:56 AM
 
Location: West Michigan
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Here's a good example of how his superior business sense was used for the benefit of all. The Wollman Rink.

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Exactly the same kind of mentality we need in the White House.
Making deals in business where Trump is essentially a dictator doesn't necessary translate to being able to run a country where he won't be pulling all the strings and isn't in control of all the balls in the air.
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Old 02-13-2016, 08:33 AM
 
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So, who, exactly, do you support? Why are you afraid to say who it is?
Afraid? Me? What a silly idea. I haven't decided which candidate I'll support. I know which candidate I would never support: Herr Trump. He is a fool.
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Old 02-13-2016, 08:45 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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well, I grew up in a solid upper middle class neighborhood, and because of this, I know a lot of extremely rich people. In private conversations, how they described veterans, poor fellows, people on welfare, colored folks would make you cringe. I am not saying they are ALL like this, but some of them are really not good human beings.

Many became politicians and promised to help the poor, minority, veterans, etc, etc.

I learned from early age that what you see is not what you got.

Trump has a big mouth, but I think what you see is what you get from this guy. I trust Trump more than I trust other politicians. But it is just me.

All politicians (yes, all) have Narcissistic Personality traits. Some hide it better, some don't. I think there are politicians out there who are also good people (like Bernie Sanders). There are politicians / rich businessmen out there who want to win (like Donald Trump). I think Donald Trump is a fighter, he might not necessarily be a good man, but I DO believe he is an honest man who doesn't want to lose. I already have a very loving caring and kind boyfriend, I do not need a good man to be president. I need somebody who can get things done.

I think Trump can secure the border (really not that hard to do), I also think Trump would fix VA problems (I 've read his plan, I think it is reasonable and doable) Not sure if he can bring jobs back, but I DO believe other countries will stop walking all over us if Trump becomes the President.

All these said,

Trump’s evolution on a number of issues, from his support for abortion rights and marijuana legalization, hasn’t hurt him with his base voters. The question is whether the same will be true for his previously dovish posture on the use of force.

Trump might sound hawkish sometimes, but his tone doesn't match history as dove. Trump is not a fan of endless war. So that is a good thing.

I don't think Trump will bring the country to another endless war.

I am undecided, but if it is Trump vs Hillary, I would vote for Mr. Donald Trump.
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Old 02-13-2016, 08:59 AM
 
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Making deals in business where Trump is essentially a dictator doesn't necessary translate to being able to run a country where he won't be pulling all the strings and isn't in control of all the balls in the air.
You can not dictate business deals with other powerful businesses. I think Trump has a lifetime of high marks in delegating talented people to work in his company's behalf. Going by his track record I think he would would be able to make deals with others, it's his talent. Another words he would have the skills to pick talented people to control the balls in the air----As the old Geico saying goes----it's what he does.
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Old 02-13-2016, 09:04 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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You can not dictate business deals with other powerful businesses. I think Trump has a lifetime of high marks in delegating talented people to work in his company's behalf. Going by his track record I think he would would be able to make deals with others, it's his talent. Another words he would have the skills to pick talented people to control the balls in the air----As the old Geico saying goes----it's what he does.
Yes, he can. Trump is very talented when it comes to making deals. Anybody deny this don't know his history or don't know how business works.

I also I am sick and tired of people who constantly bringing up the four bankruptcy.

Trump doesn’t deny that four of his businesses have filed for bankruptcy. He argues, however, that filing for bankruptcy is a common business decision, and he was smart to make the moves when he did.

The first bankruptcy associated with Trump was perhaps the most significant in terms of his personal finances. Trump gave up half his personal stake in the casino and sold his yacht and airline, according to the Washington Post.

While it would be better to avoid a situation where Chapter 11 reorganization is necessary, filing for bankruptcy can be a "sound business decision" when the company is facing serious financial problems.
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