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Bottom line is, the courts aren't going to get involved in this (especially in the middle of an election) just as they didn't in 08 and even 12 when Obama had tons of people challenging his eligibility
I have often wondered when the courts would take up the matter of "natural born".
This time it may have to make a decision as to the intended meaning of what is natural born.
To me, natural born has always meant born on United States soil.
I think this case brought by voters in Alabama will be thrown out for lack of standing, but if Trump, or another candidate filed suit, the suit would go forward.
I believe someone of standing will file suit against Cruz.
I also believe if a suit is filed,it should be handled quickly before any more primaries are held.
If not, and Cruz is found not to be a natural citizen per the constitution, all primaries held while this suit is pending, would have to be done once again, because votes for Cruz would be null and void.
This should be interesting.
What people here fail to comprehend is that regardless of the fact that nothing may come of this, once it's out there, it does place doubt in to peoples minds. That's why these things are done...they throw it out there to get people to doubt, and if they get lucky enough for it to actually go through, that's the icing on the cake.
A lot of Republicans were, and many still are, behind the birther stuff about Obama. Don't think this won't have any affect on Cruz. It will. It may not be huge, but it will, because there's still Republicans out there who have no idea who they are voting for.
That was revealed in NH where many people voted and then, during the exit poll, admitted that they had just recently made up their mind in the last day, week, or month.
this isn't the first challenge to cruz's eligibility ( it's about the 8th ) and it lacks a plaintiff with standing ( as do all the others ). this won't affect cruz.
sorry waldo.
But from what I understand..Trump does have standing..since he is front and centre in this~~~ SO don't bet against the Donald doing such a law suit..heck he sues everybody !! He has a whole hotel full of lawyers
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Brilliance has nothing to do with it. He spent his entire life (from 3 years old to today) in the US. His parents were never informed that Canadian citizenship had been conferred upon him at his birth and he never received anything from Canada informing him of his citizenship in Canada. The fact that he has always believed that he is an American would give him absolutely no reason to automatically assume he had Canadian citizenship.
It is not laughable at all. It is something I think could happen to anyone without any inference being drawn. It is because of who Cruz is and what he represents that has made it an issue.
Cruz somehow thought he could smoke screen the electorate JUST BECAUSE he presents himself as some sort of "Constitutional" soothsayer !! If anyone believes that..it's silly..ASSUME always makes an ASS out of U and Me!! because he didn't even revoke his Canadian Citizenship until 2014..AFTER he had spent a few years in the Senate Blocking/ Filibustering/intimidating House Leader..caucusing with House Teapots to put pressure on the leader...never mind caused actual Government shutdown...THEN after all that..decides he best revoke his alter-ego Citizenship...
He's a snake..lies constantly..preaches righteousness..but as some holier than thou person doesn't blink to say something to one crowd..and the opposite to another crowd...He is the prime exemplar of what $$/power does to elected politicians..Corrupt/bought and paid for....How can you trust this rather Solar Flare example of Corrupt Political Activities!!
He's a snake..lies constantly..preaches righteousness..but as some holier than thou person doesn't blink to say something to one crowd..and the opposite to another crowd...He is the prime exemplar of what $$/power does to elected politicians..Corrupt/bought and paid for....How can you trust this rather Solar Flare example of Corrupt Political Activities!![/quote]
But, it works for trump, so it should also work for cruz. Otherwise, it is a double standard. cruz supporters should be out there saying they don't care what the facts are, nothing will move them in their support of him.
But, it works for trump, so it should also work for cruz. Otherwise, it is a double standard. cruz supporters should be out there saying they don't care what the facts are, nothing will move them in their support of him.
I certainly do NOT disagree with you at all...It's exactly why the Populous is so sick and tired of the "Status Quo" in Washington....triple digit pay scales..and only works on business average a week a month...Kind of a waste...then again..the $$$$ these elected folks want is their priority to raise for their next race..all their time is paid for by taxpayers ....
Novel Idea....These guys and gals should be paid by the hour and have to clock in and out..otherwise..No ticky No Laundry!!! Let the lobbyist pay their wages!!
In fact put it into the BUDGET//call for pay cuts to Congress by the very same rate levels they cut to safety net to those in most need!! ..and believe me..tune will change..and just maybe actual work for the people of the Country will TRUMP their need to raise $$$ If they do a good job..great..however..IF they screw things up..Bye Bye..
Congress is National..NOT Local/State..there's already elected politicians who already do their constituent's bidding ( ideologues)
Yeah, they are so smart they think Cruz can sue himself in court and seek a declaratory judgment against himself.
Pure genius!
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