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Old 02-13-2016, 08:19 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Read that sentence out loud. What does that mean? If Mexico pays for it then it will be a small wall? The point of making Mexico pay for the wall is economic right?, or are we punishing them? If we build it higher wouldn't it just be more expensive? More importantly how does that seen like a logical explanation to you.
We're talking about Trump and his supporters, logic isn't a factor.
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Old 02-13-2016, 08:22 AM
 
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We're talking about Trump and his supporters, logic isn't a factor.
Insulting large numbers of people you don't know, isn't a demonstration of logic that would get you a passing grade in a logic course.
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Old 02-13-2016, 08:25 AM
 
Location: Tampa, FL
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Sanders might be the most intellectual of all the candidates. I'm not a fan of most of his social ideas, but he does an outstanding job of laying out his case/arguments. If dense Trump were half as eloquent as Sanders and as kind, he might get my vote. But he fails to explain how he plans on accomplishing his great plans. Obama fooled us with that trick.

"You can't be fooled again".......GWB.
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Old 02-13-2016, 08:33 AM
 
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If Trump and Sanders become the nominees, how is Trump going to respond to the facts that Sanders lays out when he debates? Trump, like Sanders, has somewhat acknowledged that America is lagging behind. Screaming "communist!" won't work.
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Old 02-13-2016, 08:39 AM
 
Location: Tampa, FL
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If Trump and Sanders become the nominees, how is Trump going to respond to the facts that Sanders lays out when he debates? Trump, like Sanders, has somewhat acknowledged that America is lagging behind. Screaming "communist!" won't work.
Insults are all Trump has in his tool kit.
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Old 02-13-2016, 08:41 AM
 
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If Trump and Sanders become the nominees, how is Trump going to respond to the facts that Sanders lays out when he debates? Trump, like Sanders, has somewhat acknowledged that America is lagging behind. Screaming "communist!" won't work.
Very easy to counter.

Bernie wants goverment to take from one group and give to another. i.e. Government picks the winners & losers. It's his fundamental flaw and everything else he says is rooted in that.

So in any place where he differs from Trump, and on a number of things they agree, it will be a simple matter for Trump to take it back to that single argument. And Sanders will lose on this argument every single time. Trump didn't build a company that has close to 40,000 people working for him by not knowing how to do this.

Bernie won't stand a chance.


(It's a moot point anyway. It's clear the DNC won't let Bernie be nominated.)
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Old 02-13-2016, 10:16 AM
 
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What it means is Trump is the one we need to negotiate with Mexico and they can do so in good faith or it will cost them even more. With Trump there is simply no way they can escape paying for the wall and the US will write the spec's and set the time table.
Talk about reading between the lines. That's pretty interesting, maybe Trump does not have any platform other than kick the illegals out on purpose, being that his supports are very good at interpreting his platitudes.
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Old 02-13-2016, 10:29 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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We're talking about Trump and his supporters, logic isn't a factor.
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Insulting large numbers of people you don't know, isn't a demonstration of logic that would get you a passing grade in a logic course.
In my view, if you are supporting Trump, who has nothing but platitudes and unworkable simplistic one-liners as policy proposals, and think he's going to solve Americans complicated problems, you've already checked your logic lobes at the door.
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Old 02-13-2016, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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Read that sentence out loud. What does that mean? If Mexico pays for it then it will be a small wall? The point of making Mexico pay for the wall is economic right?, or are we punishing them? If we build it higher wouldn't it just be more expensive? More importantly how does that seen like a logical explanation to you.
Instead of splitting hair try to read a little sarcasm into Trump's words. Not every word or sentence is meant to be taken literally. He is trying to tell the former president to work on his attitude because acting up will just raise the price.
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Old 02-13-2016, 10:34 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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What it means is Trump is the one we need to negotiate with Mexico and they can do so in good faith or it will cost them even more. With Trump there is simply no way they can escape paying for the wall and the US will write the spec's and set the time table.
Assuming there was a wall, which is doubtful based upon the engineering hurdle and anyone who can hold it up in court because it prevents the shark-billed spotted wedbird from migrating, apart from "simply no way they [Mexico] can escape paying for the wall," I don't see anyway they can be forced to pay for it. It's just a silly sophomoric idea.
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