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Old 02-13-2016, 08:01 PM
 
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Sanders could be Hitler and I would still vote for him if he will boot the Corporate Globalists out of DC unless you have another person in mind?

I am so sick of the Corporatist Stooges that infest DC that have destroyed this country,
Can the Crony Capitalists that infest DC be successful without our Government?
We have had 30 years of them to prove it is not working for this country.

I know corporations are not concerned about the country or Constitution so therefore they should also not be anywhere near our government.either.

http://www.theatlantic.com/business/...ocracy/390822/

How Corporate Lobbyists Conquered American Democracy

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It has also fundamentally changed how corporations interact with government—rather than trying to keep government out of its business (as they did for a long time), companies are now increasingly bringing government in as a partner, looking to see what the country can do for them.

Since that time, we have had destructive and US Led Trade Agreements such as:

NAFTA
GATT
GAFTA
China Trade
Obamacare
Bank Bail Outs for the wealthy
QE Infinity for the wealthy
MIC
TPP

Why is the country being punished for the top wealthy?

What you should be asking is why more are not voting for Pro American Candidates
All the rest are Globalist Puppets that need to take a walk off a short cliff

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Old 02-13-2016, 09:56 PM
 
Location: TN/NC
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Trump and Sanders are different results of the same issue. People are sick of politics (and politicians) as usual. So they're going for the perceived outsiders. Although considering a sitting senator as an outsider is a bit of a stretch.
Trump and Sanders are both talking tough on trade and on big business that's screwing the country and the common man. It boils down to little more than that.
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Old 02-13-2016, 10:48 PM
 
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There is something to be said for making your own way in life.

Many may not agree but I believe GIVING kids stuff does not teach them anything.

My problem with Bernie is his give a-ways to our nations young people. Forcing minimum wage to $15 an hour without working your way up to it, giving free college like it is a right, pushing for prolonged family leave all leave negative impacts not apparent to our society in the short term.

Forcing minimum wage makes the mom & pop stores struggle and doesn't inspire youth to move up the corporate ladder. In order to pay $15 an hour stores will raise prices to afford the wage hike. So everything you buy will suddenly become more expensive.

Free college punishes the taxpayer when they are already paying property taxes to pay for the schools & again does not teach our youth to do well in school to obtain the grades to go to the college of their choice. Even couples, such as my husband and I who don't have children and are now retired and have paid school taxes our whole lives are now going to have to fund their college too when we paid for our own without our parents help.

Prolonged family leave again punishes employees & employer who are forced to find someone to fill in for the on leave person and take up the slack for someone being on paid leave.

Just as the poor in big cities vote Democrat to obtain more benefits in the form of freebees, we are teaching our youth to do the same to avoid the natural culling of the lazy uninspired in favor of the blossoming entrepreneurs who work hard to make a life for themselves.

I may be of a different era than most of you but there is much to be said of the pride that comes from working your way up in life.

Plus....I have never met a Veteran who enlisted to fight for Socialism......

For one thing, the word is "phenomenon"...
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Old 02-14-2016, 12:40 AM
 
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For one thing, the word is "phenomenon"...
So he's wrong on the spelling, but correct on everything he said
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Old 02-14-2016, 01:31 AM
 
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Sanders is running on the same platform as giants like FDR and Truman. People are sick of a rigged economy held up by a corrupt system of campaign finance where special interests and wealthy donors buy politicians. That's not what democracy should be about.

Sanders is funded solely by ordinary Americans as the grassroots want to see real change in America where trade deals take into account the American worker. Why is it that we allow China and the rest of the world to build themselves up on the backs of hardworking Americans who get thrown out on the streets and their jobs sent to Mexico and China?

Some might not agree with all of his policies, and that's fine, but overall he's a man of integrity who for 40 years have fought tooth and nail for the working class and middle class of this country against the vested special interests who have waged war against the standard of living of ordinary people. He's a straight shooter who's not beholden to anyone but the voters and that is very refreshing.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7L9V7oGRv8
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Old 02-14-2016, 02:06 AM
 
Location: Seattle WA, USA
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Just because college will become free doesn't mean that it's a free pass, if anything it will become even more competitive since there will be a lot more people trying to get in, and only the best of the best will benefit from it, also if you do poorly in school the school will drop you, you really think the gov will fund a student with gpa below a 2.0? Also it only for the first 4 years (bachelor's degree) if you want to advance to a masters or doctorate you will have find other means of funding. Also most of the most educated nations in the world have free college, so don't give me that BS that it will make lazy students, you guys are just jealous that you had it the hard way and had to pay out of pocket, well guess what I would LOVE if college was the same price as it was back in the good old days, now the only affordable colleges are community colleges that ask $500 per class and $300 per text book, and yes I pay out of pocket because FAFSA doesn't cover me. And that's fine for getting an asociets degree, but what about when I need to transfer over to a four year college where tuition is at least $20,000 per year. I'm sorry but that's a ridiculous price tag and you know it too. I'm sick and tired of the older generation calling us lazy and degenerates, don't you guys have any compassion didn't generations older than you say the same exact thing about you.
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Old 02-14-2016, 02:37 AM
 
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If a democrat win this presidency, this nation is screwed.
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Old 02-14-2016, 05:31 AM
 
Location: Midwest
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Just because college will become free doesn't mean that it's a free pass, if anything it will become even more competitive since there will be a lot more people trying to get in, and only the best of the best will benefit from it, also if you do poorly in school the school will drop you, you really think the gov will fund a student with gpa below a 2.0? Also it only for the first 4 years (bachelor's degree) if you want to advance to a masters or doctorate you will have find other means of funding. Also most of the most educated nations in the world have free college, so don't give me that BS that it will make lazy students, you guys are just jealous that you had it the hard way and had to pay out of pocket, well guess what I would LOVE if college was the same price as it was back in the good old days, now the only affordable colleges are community colleges that ask $500 per class and $300 per text book, and yes I pay out of pocket because FAFSA doesn't cover me. And that's fine for getting an asociets degree, but what about when I need to transfer over to a four year college where tuition is at least $20,000 per year. I'm sorry but that's a ridiculous price tag and you know it too. I'm sick and tired of the older generation calling us lazy and degenerates, don't you guys have any compassion didn't generations older than you say the same exact thing about you.

I only want our best and brightest to go to college...Its not for everyone

Right now it is not a free pass but my point is that it will become just that....Sanders thinks everyone should go to college so they will have to make the course loads lighter to let "everyone" pass the courses and get their degree. Sanders never put a cap on what gpa you must keep to stay in college nor did he say you had to get a specific gpa from high school to get in to college.

Just as in grade school it isn't the best sports players who get into sports because "everyone" should be given the opportunity to play. It doesn't inspire youth to strive to accomplish anything that is a given. It is a disservice to your generation that Liberalism insists on equal treatment of unequal players.

I went to college in the late 80's & when the cost of living was lower than it is now but not as low as the generation before me. I paid for it myself by holding 2 jobs and carrying 12 credits per semester with a 3.92 gpa in civil engineering at Penn State
so it is all relative. I purchased used books to drefray the cost.

Don't get me wrong....Some of my generation were lazy drug taking hippies who never made anything of their lives. But for those of us who worked our way to the top and strove for excellence we did achieve financial success & enjoyed the pride and satisfaction that I fear few of your generation will ever see. There is an inherent joy in the pride of doing it yourself that I fear is being taken from your generation.
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Old 02-14-2016, 06:09 AM
 
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The only hope for America is Bernie Sanders.

Anyone else and it will be business as usual with with big business controlling the government through their puppet politicians.
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Old 02-14-2016, 06:15 AM
 
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I only want our best and brightest to go to college...Its not for everyone

Right now it is not a free pass but my point is that it will become just that....Sanders thinks everyone should go to college so they will have to make the course loads lighter to let "everyone" pass the courses and get their degree. Sanders never put a cap on what gpa you must keep to stay in college nor did he say you had to get a specific gpa from high school to get in to college.

Just as in grade school it isn't the best sports players who get into sports because "everyone" should be given the opportunity to play. It doesn't inspire youth to strive to accomplish anything that is a given. It is a disservice to your generation that Liberalism insists on equal treatment of unequal players.

I went to college in the late 80's & when the cost of living was lower than it is now but not as low as the generation before me. I paid for it myself by holding 2 jobs and carrying 12 credits per semester with a 3.92 gpa in civil engineering at Penn State
so it is all relative. I purchased used books to drefray the cost.

Don't get me wrong....Some of my generation were lazy drug taking hippies who never made anything of their lives. But for those of us who worked our way to the top and strove for excellence we did achieve financial success & enjoyed the pride and satisfaction that I fear few of your generation will ever see. There is an inherent joy in the pride of doing it yourself that I fear is being taken from your generation.
Before you would even get the "free pass" the college will still have to accept you. What you think all of a sudden they will accept everyone, and even if they could, probably 2/3 of students would fail and drop out anyway. I doubt they would lower standards because then they would lose their credibility, and there still will be private schools, which btw are even more excpensive than today's so called "public" schools. Also the schools will have fixed budgets, so they won't be able to waste their money. I also think that today's k-12 schooling is abismal and yes they seem to be lowering standards, but that's only because of the no child left behind emplamented by George W Bush.

I also agree that college is not for everyone and I think it's stupid to tell every kid in school that all their problems will be solved if they go to college and get a degree. But the problem is that all the other jobs have been shipped away, and Bernie along with Trump are one of the few people againts these disatorous trade agreements such as NAFTA. A lot of the things that Bernie wants to do are things that FDR and JFK talked about, just listen to some of their speeches, and Bernies and you will see that they are for the same thing.
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