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Old 02-14-2016, 04:42 PM
 
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I suspect that Rubio is the only one who can add enough independents to beat Hillary.
I don't think Cruz would beat Hillary in the general election. 41% of voters are Independent, and I don't
think they will go for Cruz.

BTW -- Is there a difference between a donkey and a jack a$$ ?
What in the world would possess a political party to use a donkey/Jack a$$ as it's symbol???



Perhaps a party full of jackasses?
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Old 02-14-2016, 04:43 PM
 
Location: Sweet Home Chicago!
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For Cruz to beat Trump for the nomination he has to win in the states winner takes all delegates:


1) South Carolina 50 delegates
2) Florida 99 delegates
3) Illinois 69 delegates
4) Ohio 66 delegates
5) Arizona 58 delegates
6) Wisconsin 42 delegates
7) Delaware 16 delegates
8) Maryland 38 delegates
9) Pennsylvania 71 delegates
10) Indiana 57 delegates
11) Nebraska 36 delegates
12) California 172 delegates
13) Montana 27 delegates
14) New Jersey 51 delegates
15) South Dakota 29 delegates



If Cruz can't beat Trump in South Carolina.....forget the rest of the states in that list........Trump wins those states of winner takes all then all Trump has to do is get 30% min. in the rest of the states that are proportional.

Do you have a path for Cruz to get to 1,237 delegates to win the nomination? I don't without winning those states above.

but, but, but, the RNC will just make someone other than Trump the winner then, right?

And to think so many dismissed him early on...
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Old 02-14-2016, 04:43 PM
 
Location: University City, Philadelphia
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It might very well be ...

either Trump or Cruz vs. Hillary.

At this point it seems Kasich, Rubio, and Bush need a major miracle to get the GOP nomination.
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Old 02-14-2016, 04:44 PM
 
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Aslong as it's Trump or Cruz, I'll be happy. Slam in the dunk victory for the Democrats.
What makes you so sure? A lot of people think Hillary is just as smarmy as her husband and Sanders is an admitted socialist.
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Old 02-14-2016, 04:49 PM
 
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The problem with Trump is that he diverts any question on "How" he will do what he says he will do. He tends to get personal and abusive when he is forced to do that. He cannot keep doing that through the next 4-5 months. Now in any case he gets through with that in the primaries and get nomination, then we are in the real danger of another Obamaesque government.
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Old 02-14-2016, 05:06 PM
 
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Because they won't have the youth vote, female vote or the minority vote. (blacks, gays, mexicans, etc etc)

The Republicans didn't realize that in 08, 12, and they won't in 16 either.

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What makes you so sure? A lot of people think Hillary is just as smarmy as her husband
Please elaborate.

People love Bill Clinton. I wish he could run instead of Hillary. He would make this election a cakewalk.
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Old 02-14-2016, 05:10 PM
 
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Please elaborate.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AT16QqvyAVE
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Old 02-14-2016, 05:20 PM
 
Location: WY
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I suspect that Rubio is the only one who can add enough independents to beat Hillary.
I don't think Cruz would beat Hillary in the general election. 41% of voters are Independent, and I don't
think they will go for Cruz.

BTW -- Is there a difference between a donkey and a jack a$$ ?
What in the world would possess a political party to use a donkey/Jack a$$ as it's symbol???
I think Rubio has the best chance in the general to beat Hillary (wouldn't it be funny if she were indicted, dropped out and the D nominee by default was an old Democratic Socialist?).

Rubio is young, charismatic, articulate, has a positive message, is Hispanic, the son of immigrants, had to take out and pay back student loans, has a young, good looking family. Not much of that really matters, but the public is generally uninformed and is persuaded (led like sheep) by the intangibles that don't matter once a candidate wins the election.

Trump has strengths as well but I think Rubio has the best shot at cross appeal.

As an aside, the fact that people are finally beginning to realize that Trump is a viable candidate (and the fact that a businessman and not a professional politician has gotten this far) is astonishing. Whether he makes it to the finish line or not, it gives the message that it CAN be done. If not by Trump, then by someone else in the future. Kudos to Trump. Big time. Now let's see how far he gets.
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Old 02-14-2016, 05:21 PM
 
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Based on the my understanding of how the campaign is moving, I feel that it is going to Ted Cruz Vs Hillary Clinton and that is going to be a really nasty one!

In spite of all the strides Berny is making in the Donkey party, he cant get past in most of the other states to get a nomination. He is too left for many democrats and independents.

Trump will start struggling when the debate and questions get more substantive. He cannot keep saying "wait and see what I will do" forever. Bush still seems to struggling even though he might surpass Rubio in coming months with all his money and fire power. Rubio is too young and inexperienced for the role and will slowly start to wither away. This leaves Ted Cruz to be the only one who seems to be balancing out most of these aspects.

My analysis is purely based on an objective look of the candidates. Let me know your views.
As much as I'd like to see Cruz as the nominee, its more likely it'll be Trump. Pains me to say that, as he has the potential to be a real disaster as President. Unfortunately, too many voters vote with emotion than knowledge, and Trump is a showman.
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Old 02-14-2016, 06:01 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Cruz no. Jeb! or Trump, maybe. Clinton is a virtual lock.
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