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Originally Posted by RaymondChandlerLives
It actually is, and I'm amazed Trumpettes think otherwise. I really hope you're all joking. Skyscrapers are a dime a dozen these days.
If you don't think there is more risk of injury or death in building a skyscraper over building a wall then you're sadly out of touch with reality.
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Trump's engineering expertise ("build my casino here!") will be of no use constructing a 1,000 mile wall.
Trumpettes like to bring up large scale construction projects of the past, but they never tell you about the human toll they exacted.
Hoover Dam = 100+ perished during its construction,
Panama Canal = 5,600 perished during the US construction period.
Great Wall of China = 1,000,000 deaths; it was built with slave labor.
Anyone who thinks Trump's estimates are accurate probably thought Rumsfeld's initial estimates for the Iraq War ($50-60 billion) sounded plausible at the time.
Oh yes by all means use examples from when the concern for worker safety was either low priority or, as in the case of the Great Wall of China, of no concern what so ever.
Have you ever seen the footage of the construction of either the Hoover Dam or the Panama Canal? It's not surprising that there were injuries and deaths, especially since worker safety was a low priority during the construction of both. Building a wall is child's play compared to those projects you listed. State and fed government already builds tall walls, like Trump is talking about, for highway projects, prison projects, etc.
A side note - the video is talking about a wall that would be about 2000 miles long, I doubt the wall will be built the full length of the border since there are areas where it's so harsh that it wouldn't be feasible to build it, such as deep desert areas, instead they would probably rely on electronics to monitor any activity.
Trump forgets that most of the companies who have moved to Mexico sell in the global marketplace. In other words, they don't need to sell their goods to Americans and if they don't there will be no tariffs for the US government to collect. If they do sell to us then it's we, the consumers, who will be paying the tariffs in the form of higher prices.
So no one would want to tap into the largest consumer market in the world ? That is the kind of thinking we have now from politicians that is ridicules. When you are number one at something you actually have leverage to make a better deal if you're smart enough to use it and not walk into the deal with your tail between your legs.
This question has been asked many times and the subtexts always is that they won't pay and there is nothing you do can to make them. Here is the story. They don't have to agree to pay us anything. We already have their money. Can you not pay your property taxes when it is already escrowed? No. We have a $50+ billion dollars account deficit with them every year. You keep $10B for the wall and give them the rest. For Mexico, it is bargain. They will make 5 times that next year.
We have a $50+ billion dollar TRADE deficit. That money doesn't come and go from the government of Mexico! That money goes to individual companies that are in Mexico. Those companies could be (and probably are) American companies. Can you imagine telling Walmart or Levi Strauss that they are going to pay for the wall?
So no one would want to tap into the largest consumer market in the world ? That is the kind of thinking we have now from politicians that is ridicules. When you are number one at something you actually have leverage to make a better deal if you're smart enough to use it and not walk into the deal with your tail between your legs.
China is actually overtaking us as "the largest consumer market in the world." China has 1.4 billion people. We have 300 million.
We have a $50+ billion dollar TRADE deficit. That money doesn't come and go from the government of Mexico! That money goes to individual companies that are in Mexico. Those companies could be (and probably are) American companies. Can you imagine telling Walmart or Levi Strauss that they are going to pay for the wall?
Why not? Why are they on the other side of the wall in the first place? Tariffs are the cost of selling goods in this country. Shell out some of those labor-saving schemes. Actually, the plan works better than I thought. Killing two birds with one stone. Pay for the wall AND make Walmart come back home.
He will impose a 35% on Taco Bell to pay for the materials .
For the labor, he will have temporary concentration camps around the border where he will hold those 11 million he is deporting. He will make them build the wall and once they have completed their sentence the lucky ones will get deported. The rest who cares.
Driven by demand in China and other Asian markets, the Ford Focus is likely to finish 2013 as the most popular car in the world, according to LMC Automotive. It would be the second year in a row that Focus ranked highest in global sales. In 2012, it ousted the Corolla from the top spot.
Yet the Focus is far from being America’s best-selling small car. Through November, it ranks fifth in the segment. The leader, Honda Civic, doesn’t even crack the Top 10 globally.
China is actually overtaking us as "the largest consumer market in the world." China has 1.4 billion people. We have 300 million.
Yeah, that is how the China opening was sold to us by Kissinger. I lived though it. Same argument: Imagine if every Chinese drank one can of Coke a day. That's one billion cans of Coke a day. What are the real numbers now 40 years later? Looks like we are drinking the Chinese Kool Aid instead.
Why not? Why are they on the other side of the wall in the first place? Tariffs are the cost of selling goods in this country. Shell out some of those labor-saving schemes. Actually, the plan works better than I thought. Killing two birds with one stone. Pay for the wall AND make Walmart come back home.
Can't do that because we signed NAFTA. And if you add tariffs to goods, it just raises the price of them. Are you willing to pay $300 for a pair of Levi's?
Yeah, that is how the China opening was sold to us by Kissinger. I lived though it. Same argument: Imagine if every Chinese drank one can of Coke a day. That's one billion cans of Coke a day. What are the real numbers now 40 years later? Looks like we are drinking the Chinese Kool Aid instead.
China is a huge market for a lot of US companies. Unfortunately, they also took their production to China.
The great part though (for them) is because they are US companies, the USA protects them with our military, etc. which we all pay for, not the companies.
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