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Old 02-26-2016, 05:46 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Perhaps, but Trump is What you see is, what you get, while Rubio comes off as a party hack taking whatever line the party wants him to pull. His reponse are ....Trump did this; blah, blah, blah Obama did that; ...yaddy, yaddy, I can beat Hillary. Unlike Trump he rarely seems like his own man.
Yup. Where is Marco in all his talk? Nowhere to be found. Rubio tires to be a mirror, reflecting back whatever another wants to see without exposing himself at all. He wants nothing to be about him.

Unlike Trump, who wants it all to be about him. Cruz too. Rubio is their polar opposite. He's the man who isn't there.
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Old 02-26-2016, 05:46 PM
 
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I wouldn't care if an individual wasn't a politician but he has to have a very detailed, intelligent and coherent plan. My concern is Trump doesn't understand the intricacies of the problems he is talking about. Making a claim that he will fix the immigration problem, tackle ISIS, healthcare, etc. without providing any details whatsoever is very misleading. He is trying to impress the country with his insults and abrasive statements, creating an impression he is an arrogant outsider, a bad-boy who would turn Washington around overnight. So far it seems he does not have any more knowledge of any of the domestic and international topics than what one could read on Wikipedia, and even worse, he has not presented any plan on how he would handle each of the issues. "I will get Mexico to pay for the wall" would sound great in a movie or a drama and people would cheer, but in real world it sounds dumb and absolutely unrealistic.

I wholeheartedly disagree. First Trump runs a very large private organization which deals with over 10,000 employees. He knows labor laws, health care laws / regulations, workers comp, and a whole lot more just from being the president of such a large company than most people could even imagine. He is no empty suit.

He realistically understand the immigration problems because he employees many Latinos as well as has had to import them into the country to work on permits. I think his dis-tractors fail to give him credit for just how much it does take to run such a large brand-name and company. Nobody running for office on either side comes close to him in that regard, they are all politicians soaking up tax payers money on salaries and enjoying their own egos in their feeble little ways while many of them were asking him for financial handouts

As for his abrasive rhetoric, well thats been a Trump trademark forever and I actually like his non-PC approach. We're all entitled to our individual opinions

As for the wall, many people do not understand the trade deficit or the simple fact that the USA buys more crude oil / gas from Mexico and Canada than it does from the Middle East. Do you know where the Mexican Governments budgets come from? You guessed it, their oil / gas sales to the USA. All Trump has to do is to tell Mexico they if they do not build (and pay for the wall) and fix the trade deficit then the USA will stop buying their oil and gas. The USA will be forced then to drill at home creating thousands of new jobs while Mexico's economy takes another huge hit.

Guess you weren't aware when gas prices fell so low that the Mexican government took another huge hit and had to cut a lot of funding for many government programs and social services. Mexico was even forced to enact a lot of new regulations and impose taxes all over the country just to stay afloat. that combined with the huge hit in tourism from the narco violence has been a huge double whammy for Mexico. They're not in a realistic position to question or deny such a request especially since they too have a VERY secure Southern Border. Mexico works really hard at preventing people from entering Mexico from their Southern border so its hypocritical to suggest the USA not do the same. So for anyone to suggest building a wall is absolutely unrealistic is well... just absolute nonsense
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Old 02-26-2016, 08:00 PM
 
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That isn't what the press is saying, even NPR news. They are saying, the only mistake Rubio has made is not doing what he did last night a long time ago. It might be too little, too late!!!!!
So he was out smarted by the more experienced ( life experience ) Trump. Why pick the guy with less smarts when you can have the guy with more.
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Old 02-26-2016, 08:45 PM
 
Location: University City, Philadelphia
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Still don't belive Trump will ever be President
But he may very well be the Republican nominee!
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Old 02-26-2016, 08:53 PM
 
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But he may very well be the Republican nominee!

And you gotta love the fact that all of them were basically forcing Trump to sign the pledge that they would all agree to support whoever became the party's nominee. They all thought Trump hand no chance in helll to ever get as far as he has and now that he is steamrolling them all over and they all hate him its just funny to me how they must all keep their pledge and support him.

Trust me he is going to remind them one day of their pledge and rightfully so.
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Old 02-26-2016, 09:11 PM
 
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Marco Rubio was in Oklahoma City at his rally and he is constantly trying to insult Trump. It looks really sad. It seems like a Rubio swan song.

He doesn't realize that the tactics that work for Donald Trump do not work for him, simply because Rubio does not have the gravitas that Trump has.

Rubio has never accomplished anything. But Trump is a superstar. Trump has the right to insult his opponents in a way that nobodies like Rubio can never do.

Rubio has never accomplished anything in his life for him to have the nerve to joke about Trump.

Rubio has lost.
There is no meltdown.

We have a Rhino who supports illegal immigration and most of Obama's policies. He is inexperienced and seems confused when presented with multiple scenarios.

Gee............................ he sounds a lot like Obama. Obama was the worst president in US history. Carter is happy that Obama has taken that title from him. The nation, as a result of his disasterous policy, is not so happy.

Rubio is another Obama. The nation is in decline, as it was under Carter. We do not need another Carter or Obama, we need a Reagan. Trump is the only candidate who may help, although the task is infinitely greater than it was in 2008 (Obama has magnified our problems several fold and was a false liberal messiah).

Hillary and Rubio are more of the same. Do you want more of the same?
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Old 02-26-2016, 09:21 PM
 
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There is no meltdown.

We have a Rhino who supports illegal immigration and most of Obama's policies. He is inexperienced and seems confused when presented with multiple scenarios.

Gee............................ he sounds a lot like Obama. Obama was the worst president in US history. Carter is happy that Obama has taken that title from him. The nation, as a result of his disasterous policy, is not so happy.

Rubio is another Obama. The nation is in decline, as it was under Carter. We do not need another Carter or Obama, we need a Reagan. Trump is the only candidate who may help, although the task is infinitely greater than it was in 2008 (Obama has magnified our problems several fold and was a false liberal messiah).

Hillary and Rubio are more of the same. Do you want more of the same?
You do know that Trump is a moderate. Many wouldn't know that because he never held public office.
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Old 02-27-2016, 05:27 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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That's what many like about Trump ..he is not a very good politician! As for policy details its not even important these days because we all know after years of even great policy details nothing ever gets done by politicians who have the best laid plans.


What was Obama's first order of business? Closing Guantanamo but all these years later he is having to use executive orders and free the inmates just do get it done before he leaves office. Same with Obama care which has been a total disaster. A web site that cost 100 million dollars and didn't work for a health care plan thats putting people out of work and moving full-timers to part time jobs.

so for me personally Id rather have someone like Trump who says nothing and is vague rather than to be disappointed with detailed plans that never come to fruition.
this would all be fine except he is saying a lot. He is promising all kinds of things he can not deliver. I think it is very clear why he is so popular. The scary thing: 1-he could very well win and nomination and God forbid even the election. What then? Do you really think those who are counting on him to build the fence, export millions of people, improve health care, tell China to take a hike, etc. won't be disappointed when he gets nothing really done and then blames everyone else? Do you think being a successful businessman and doing thing his way will work without the support of the congress?

You are so impressed with Trump and being a businessman, like it or not, being a successful business man and being a successful politician are not the same. Yes, the president does to know politics and how the system works or in some cases does not work.

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Old 02-27-2016, 05:31 AM
 
Location: Bella Vista, Ark
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I think Rubio is winning the battle but losing the war. Because while many like to see Trump taken down a notch or aped I've also seen a fair number of my conservative friends who were thoroughly disgusted by almost the entire stage last night.
I think we all feel that way, but it appears with someone like Trump running there seems to be no choice. They have to go after him in the only way he understands. They did that. Just think of what is going to happen if he, indeed were elected Pres.
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Old 02-28-2016, 10:45 AM
 
Location: New Jersey
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I wholeheartedly disagree. First Trump runs a very large private organization which deals with over 10,000 employees. He knows labor laws, health care laws / regulations, workers comp, and a whole lot more just from being the president of such a large company than most people could even imagine. He is no empty suit.
While I respect your line of thought, please do understand the running a company and running a country requires completely different skill sets. One can run a company into ground, like Trump has done 4 times, but one cannot run a country into ground and file for bankruptcy. Running a company is a selfish motive centered around wealth accumulation for oneself and the company's directors/share holders. Running a country is supposed to be a selfless job where one works for the citizens and builds strategic plans for next 10-20 years. Over the last 25+ years Trump has spent money left and right to "buy" his relationships with both parties, which he cannot do as a President. You cannot throw money at China, Russia, India or Mexico and expect them to be friendly with you. If running a company was all it takes to be a good president, we have CEOs far far more qualified than Trump who have built billion dollar companies from nothing, spread across the world, and a thousand times more successful than Trump.

Trump is all talk and no material. He does not have the temprament or respect required to run the most powerful nation in the world. The day Trump is nominated would be the happiest day for the Democratic party.
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