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Old 02-27-2016, 11:06 AM
 
Location: Type 0.7 Kardashev
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At this point, there are two possibilities for the Republican nomination for President:

*Trump wins the nomination outright, or
*Brokered convention

By staying in the race, Rubio and Cruz and Kasich all grab at least a portion of the non-trump part of the pie that may well turn out to be more than Trump's piece. Result: brokered convention, where even 5% of all delegates might be enough to make even Kasich the kingmaker.

Think they're going to throw that away? Don't bet on it!

The is a classic case of the Tragedy of the Commons. Together, they could unite to stop Trump. But that would require at least two of the three to give a rat's rump about the greater good. Instead, they all greedily push their own interests at the expense of the party.

PS:
No, sorry Ben Carson. You are the one remaining candidate who is completely irrelevant at this point (but you'll stay in, because you're just pretending to run for President in order to sell copies of your book and make you a lucrative speech-giver, though why anyone wants to hear your incoherent political ramblings is beyond me).

PPS:
As a bemused liberal observer of the conservative dumpster fire, all I can say is that Republican Survivor is by far the most entertaining Trump reality show yet!

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Old 02-27-2016, 11:42 AM
 
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The problem with this theory is this.

I requires the delegate fairy to show up and actually cause people to start voting for these jokers to the point where they start to win states. If they don't, then they will be devastated by their losses in winner take all states.

So if they can't do this now, why would anyone think it will happen later?
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Old 02-27-2016, 11:45 AM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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The problem with this theory is this.

I requires the delegate fairy to show up and actually cause people to start voting for these jokers to the point where they start to win states. If they don't, then they will be devastated by their losses in winner take all states.

So if they can't do this now, why would anyone think it will happen later?
Waiting for Trump fatigue. One can always hope, after all.
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Old 02-27-2016, 11:47 AM
 
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*T PPS:
Republican Survivor is by far the most entertaining Trump reality show yet!
Well we can agree on this point! Donald Trump.....bringing people together
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Old 02-27-2016, 11:55 AM
 
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Carson stays to annoy Cruz. I'm sure Cruz is seething under his Christian breath.
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Old 02-27-2016, 12:01 PM
 
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Trump will have the lion's share of the delegates.
Most likely, he clears 1,237. If he doesn't, the "other"
Republicans can decide if they want to implode the party,
which will destroy it, or remit to Trump the few he would need.
It would require complete and total collusion among all other
candidates and delegates to elect someone other than the
candidate with the most delegates.
The GOP would die. They would lose the House and Senate.
Trump would run 3rd party independent and beat the Republican.
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Old 02-27-2016, 12:01 PM
 
Location: Denver CO
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I thought this was a good article about delegate math, and how it's still not a clear shot for Trump, even with winner take all coming into play. Yes, at some point, he could wrap it up, but there are still a lot of scenarios out there.

How Tricky Delegate Math Will Decide the Republican Nomination - Fortune
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Old 02-27-2016, 12:06 PM
 
Location: Fredericktown,Ohio
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Originally Posted by Unsettomati View Post
At this point, there are two possibilities for the Republican nomination for President:

*Trump wins the nomination outright, or
*Brokered convention

By staying in the race, Rubio and Cruz and Kasich all grab at least a portion of the non-trump part of the pie that may well turn out to be more than Trump's piece. Result: brokered convention, where even 5% of all delegates might be enough to make even Kasich the kingmaker.

Think they're going to throw that away? Don't bet on it!
The new theory is they all stay in minus Carson. just like you say. Then the hope is a brokered convention and getting to the 2nd and maybe 3 round where the delegates are no longer committed. Of course they will all get a chance to plead their case to the delegates and maybe a couple of times. I would love to see a brokered convention where anything could happened.
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Old 02-27-2016, 12:07 PM
 
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He can always run as an independent...he will say the people want me to so I'll do it. The whole process is a scam...look at the super delegates awarded to Hillary vs Bernie. The parties have too much power, and Trump said many times, if they don't treat me fairly, I won't honor my pledge. Giving the nomination to Kasich and his 5% support isn't fair
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Old 02-27-2016, 12:32 PM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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Originally Posted by Unsettomati View Post
At this point, there are two possibilities for the Republican nomination for President:

*Trump wins the nomination outright, or
*Brokered convention

By staying in the race, Rubio and Cruz and Kasich all grab at least a portion of the non-trump part of the pie that may well turn out to be more than Trump's piece. Result: brokered convention, where even 5% of all delegates might be enough to make even Kasich the kingmaker.

Think they're going to throw that away? Don't bet on it!

The is a classic case of the Tragedy of the Commons. Together, they could unite to stop Trump. But that would require at least two of the three to give a rat's rump about the greater good. Instead, they all greedily push their own interests at the expense of the party.

PS:
No, sorry Ben Carson. You are the one remaining candidate who is completely irrelevant at this point (but you'll stay in, because you're just pretending to run for President in order to sell copies of your book and make you a lucrative speech-giver, though why anyone wants to hear your incoherent political ramblings is beyond me).

PPS:
As a bemused liberal observer of the conservative dumpster fire, all I can say is that Republican Survivor is by far the most entertaining Trump reality show yet!
I heard the Republican back-room dealmakers are totally furious with Kasich for refusing to drop out.
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