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Old 03-04-2016, 07:11 AM
 
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MLK belonged to the Party of Lincoln. The ideologies, regarding race, have shifted since Nixon's Southern Strategy.
There is absolutely no evidence that King was ever a Republican. That rumor was started by Kings whackadoodle Republican niece who has subsequently recanted.
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Old 03-04-2016, 07:13 AM
 
Location: Japan
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Israeli media covers the Trump angle most American media will not touch.
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The N.Y. tycoon is decimating the three legs of blanket Republican support for Israel: Evangelicals, Jews and interventionist hawks.
In their Super Tuesday speeches, Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio tried to use an Israel hammer to bash Donald Trump. Cruz sneeringly lambasted him for saying he would remain “neutral” while Rubio trounced Trump for trying to stay “impartial”, as his audience booed accordingly. And Trump? Trump was racking up victories, amassing delegates and laughing all the way to the top of the Republican presidential field.
In this way, the New York billionaire is decimating the conventional wisdom, one of many, that in 2016, total and unconditional support for Israel is a prerequisite for any aspiring GOP candidate wishing to run for president; that such a pledge of allegiance to Israel, in general, and to Benjamin Netanyahu, in particular, is a threshold requirement for gaining the support of Evangelicals, who set the tone during primary season...
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Old 03-04-2016, 07:26 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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What I replied to:



My reply:



Then comes this:



Yes ... at least 50. BTW what you call nonsense is aka ... FACT.

And then this:



Talk about spin ... this is making me dizzy. Yep ... ONE southern R voted no. The southern D's (aka Dixiecrats) were in their usual dim lockstep. I stand by the fact that the R's did it and to please YOU, yes some dims jumped on board.



Lord have mercy ... now we are in turbo-spin. Guess it's too much for you to admit the truth ... MLK belonged to the Republican Party.

El Nox
What you are fighting against is a prime example of what happens when history is not taught in school or when revisionist history IS taught.
Good luck fighting this fight!
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Old 03-04-2016, 07:29 AM
 
Location: LEAVING CD
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I am not sure what you are trying to argue. But Wiki has a good piece on this that breaks the vote down by region. It's clear the divide was North v South. If you were trying to argue that Republicans passed the Civil Rights Act, remember that Lydon Johnson was instrumental.

Also, remember that the positions taken by the Parties have switched since then. Those Southern racist Democrats switched Parties after the Civil Rights Act was passed.
Do you always get your history lessons from Wiki? A source that can be changed by ANYONE at any time?
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Old 03-04-2016, 08:16 AM
 
Location: Alaska
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Well he was right about trade last night. That must **** off the elite GOP

U.S. trade deficit widens as exports hit 5-1/2-year low | Daily Mail Online

Payrolls in U.S. Surge While Wages Drop in Mixed Jobs Report - Bloomberg Business

The current administration is turning us into a 3rd world country.
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Old 03-04-2016, 08:20 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Well he was right about trade last night. That must **** off the elite GOP

U.S. trade deficit widens as exports hit 5-1/2-year low | Daily Mail Online

Payrolls in U.S. Surge While Wages Drop in Mixed Jobs Report - Bloomberg Business

The current administration is turning us into a 3rd world country.
Please explain how Obama's policies are 'turning us into a 3rd world country?'

Aren't conservatives the ones who want the dollar to be strong? Well, then don't complain when the strong dollar diminishes exports.

Obama wants to raise the minimum wage, which would raise wages. Conservatives resist raising the minimum wage and then complain about wages dropping.
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Old 03-04-2016, 08:51 AM
 
Location: St. Louis
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Please explain how Obama's policies are 'turning us into a 3rd world country?'
One obvious way is by allowing mass immigration, both legal but particularly mass illegal immigration, from third world countries.

Third world countries are third world because they have third world populations. We are not being inundated with high functioning Swedes and Germans.
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Old 03-04-2016, 09:02 AM
 
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Oh yeah - sure. He'll make our military "so big, so powerful, so strong, that nobody, absolutely nobody will mess with us." And he'll finally take out ISIS, wherever they may be.

But, unlike any of the other GOP candidates who're saying the exact same thing, he's somehow different. A kinder, gentler warmonger.

You really believe that, don't you?
Exactly. He is saying the same thing.

People just hear what they want to hear. They are starstruck and don't even pay attention anymore to what their politicians are saying.

Trump said this on NBC's "Meet the Press:

"You take away their (ISIS's) wealth, that you go and knock the hell out of the oil, take back the oil,We're going to have so much money"
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Old 03-04-2016, 09:09 AM
 
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Actually what Trump has said---that the others have not---- is that he would work with the Russians to destroy ISIS.

And I'll take this a step further ---- The Russians have utterly decimated/decapitated ISIS/Daesh/ Anti-Assad rebels. And once they force Turkey to close the 100km long Ankara border region that acts as the only transit route for re-supply -- It's game over son.

The American military doesn't even need to be in the country or offer close air-support to defeat ISIS.
Anyone who thinks the US is gonna work with Russia knows zero about what is going on in that region.

Neither the U.S. or Russia are in Syria out of the goodness of their hearts. Get real.
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Old 03-04-2016, 02:37 PM
 
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there is absolutely no evidence that king was ever a republican. That rumor was started by kings whackadoodle republican niece who has subsequently recanted.
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Edit: Ok- here's the skinny. I read a couple articles, as your question intrigued me. King was a registered Republican, as most southern blacks were in the 50s and 60s. The Democrats were a very different party then, being labeled the "Dixiecrats," big supporters (and often members) of the KKK, in favor of continued segregation, against legislation that would help blacks, etc. As a Democrat, I am pretty embarrassed at this aspect of our party's history.
However in 1960, King was arrested for participating in a massive sit-in. At the same time, JFK was making his run for president. King's father, fearing that someone might act on one of the hundreds of death threats that were being made, requested that Kennedy use his rising influence to have MLK released. Civil rights was not really one of JFK's key issues, but he received a very large boost in popularity for taking up this issue (Especially in the more populated North) It was rumored that MLK senior promised JFK 10 million votes in exchange for his son's freedom and a focus on civil rights in the campaign. Many cite this specific event as the biggest migration ever of blacks to the Democratic party (Today of course, Blacks are the strongest demographic in the Democratic party based on percentage)
So to sum-up, King was a Republican, like most blacks before 1960, but his relationships with democratic leaders like JFK and RFK and Lyndon Johnson made him publicly endorse these candidates. For the support King gave them, and the literally millions of people King brought with him, most of these Democrats were very good in following through with action during the civil rights movement. So while King was most certainly a Republican, it could be argued that he invented the "Black Democrat" as we know it. Republican or Democrat, King was one of the most respected men of the 20th Century. I would say that putting any label of party affiliation kinda distracts from what his message and fight really was. More that anything, he was incredibly gifted at bringing all people together when it came to civil rights
Sorry this turned into a dissertation, I just think it is a wonderful question, especially during this current election where partisanship is so strong and the issue of race is a large underlying factor in it all.

Source(s): Master's degree in American History - 5 years of teaching the stuff!
One good article I read:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/con...
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