At this point, what difference does it make?

[Livejack]

Originally Posted by michiganmoon

What are you denying?

Obama's total lack of managing experience prior to becoming president - he didn't even have a classroom to manage as a professor, as a senator he didn't even have a committee to chair or any legislation of any significance to guide through, etc... Do you deny Obama's track record is absent of working with opposing viewpoints? Obama's resume was razor thin.

Do you deny that both Hillary and Trump have a record of working with others and managing? Trump's biggest knock in the GOP primaries had been (until resurfaced scandals) that he worked too well with Democrats to the point that he looked like a democrat.

Not living in denial, just saying I see no way that the present mind set in the house and senate is going to be any more amiable to a Trump or Clinton prez than they are to Obama.

[Skold]

Originally Posted by biscuitmom

There are 24 GOP Senate seats up for re-election this fall. 5 are considered swing seats that are at risk to go Dem. If Clinton carries the general, then it's likely the Dems will sweep those. By winning those 5 seats the Dems will regain the Senate majority.

Great! If that nightmare comes to pass, I'll be glad I am in a remote backwoods part of the country where I can sort of ignore the fact that our country is falling apart and full of complete and utter morons.

[michiganmoon]

Originally Posted by Livejack

Not living in denial, just saying I see no way that the present mind set in the house and senate is going to be any more amiable to a Trump or Clinton prez than they are to Obama.

Well, we may see...keep in mind, at least half or more of the problem of stubborn politicians that can't manage and work with others will be gone come January 2017 as Obama and other congressmen leave office.

[xray731]

Originally Posted by Livejack

Not living in denial, just saying I see no way that the present mind set in the house and senate is going to be any more amiable to a Trump or Clinton prez than they are to Obama.

If Trump wins - the parties know it is in their best interest to work with him other wise - their own jobs are toast - as the American people want change and thus elected Trump over the establishment. A Trump win is really what America needs right now so the people we elect will actually start working for the American people and not their own self interests.

Yes many will balk at that idea - but it is precisely their stubbornness that changed things up the past 6 yrs allowing the Tea Party to make the gains they did. If they like their job - they can keep it - but they will do what their constituents want or someone else will be elected to their position who will.