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Old 03-06-2016, 10:21 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Originally Posted by AnywhereElse View Post
You are incorrect that this is happening to peaceful protesters. Try to expand your news sources. The peaceful ones last asked to leave did not go willingly and gave the police a lot of trouble once outside and were told to leave. It appears they were not "peaceful".

Trump's events are "PRIVATE" events and he has a rule to remove protesters. This is done for the safety and benefit of the people that come to hear Trump speak. There are many, many more supporters wanting to get inside to hear Trump so why have people protesting inside a PRIVATE event.

You need to try to put yourself in the place of those that go to hear Trump speak. If you were attending a conference and I appeared to be causing a threat and not following the rules. Would you want me to remain? Would you want me to shout or stand in your way so that you could not see or hear?

You have to keep in mind that Trump is talking about the Wall. That will shut off a main artery for illegal drugs which are big business in the US. Suppliers do not want that happen and neither do the users. Also, illegal immigrants sucking the public assistance teat are fearful that their free ride is over. You have a lot of low lifes that don't want Trump in office so being of a "lower" form of life to begin with, they present an annoyance and a danger.

I hope that clears it up for you.
What did this young woman do that wasn't peaceful?

Trump Watch: Young Black Woman Assaulted at Ky. Rally VIDEO - The Root

The Marines thought the behavior so awful, they rescinded acceptance for one of the offenders:

Donald Trump Supporter Who Verbally Harassed Black Woman During Rally Denied by Marines

 
Old 03-06-2016, 10:32 AM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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Maybe she would feel more at home at a Bernie rally.
I see several non-white people in that crowd, not one of whom is being harassed, berated, pushed... by anyone else in the crowd.

Thanks for the illustration of the positive energy at a Sanders rally.
I'm sure I'm not the only one who appreciates the contrast.
 
Old 03-06-2016, 10:35 AM
 
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What did this young woman do that wasn't peaceful?

Trump Watch: Young Black Woman Assaulted at Ky. Rally VIDEO - The Root
She really seemed to be suffering as she smiled and then a moment later took out her phone to live Tweet. Is this the best you anti-trumpers can come up with? He has had to kick hundreds of protestors out of his events. If they didn't give some of these people a push to get them moving, the rallies would not be able to resume. What you need to realize is, Trump isn't getting secret service protection on the level of Obama. And for whatever reason, Trump really draws out all the moon bat crazy liberals to his rallies, and these people do not want to leave peacefully. You can see her stop in her tracks several times to resist their calls to leave. The headline calls her a "young black woman" but she certainly isn't a small woman so they used every other descriptive possible to help paint her as a victim.
 
Old 03-06-2016, 10:40 AM
 
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I see several non-white people in that crowd, not one of whom is being harassed, berated, pushed... by anyone else in the crowd.

Thanks for the illustration of the positive energy at a Sanders rally.
I'm sure I'm not the only one who appreciates the contrast.
You might need to adjust the color levels on your monitor, because there is not a single person in that photo with a skin tone darker than Conan O'brien. And on the rare occasion that someone does protest at a Sanders event, he completely flips his lid or simply stands down and lets them take over the stage.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf2cCdgwgoM
 
Old 03-06-2016, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Heh, heh.......Meanwhile Dear Leader signed HR 347 into law.

HR 347 makes it easier for law enforcement to criminalize protest. Now, if you show up with a sign or shout out protests, you can be found guilty of violating a federal law. I'll leave it up to interested parties to look up H.R. 347.

Trump's detractors were escorted out; Obama's will be arrested.
HR = House of Representatives.

FYI: large Pub majority passed this legislation. Obama could have singed it or vetoed it. But he didn't initiate it or write it.

Write to your congressman. Let him know that you're voting against him in November.

 
Old 03-06-2016, 11:22 AM
 
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Don't forget -- a security guy choked the photographer from Time Magazine when he stepped out of the media "pen" at a Trump rally. Stuff like that never happens at other candidates events.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6xm4g-iIw20
That was a secret service agent, not one of Trump's personal hired security guards. I mean, if you're going to post a link to the video, at least get the basic details right please. I love debating this stuff with you guys. So many bold declarations made based on emotional pleas and half truths.. it's so easy to refute.

I would love to see what would happen if a photographer -- or anyone for that matter -- breached the security barriers at an Obama speech to get closer than they're allowed. Oh yes, I'm sure the secret service would kindly ask him or her to please stand back, and if that didn't work maybe they'll threaten to stamp their feet and hold their breath? You guys crack me up.
 
Old 03-06-2016, 11:46 AM
 
Location: Kentucky Bluegrass
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Originally Posted by PuddingPops View Post
That was a secret service agent, not one of Trump's personal hired security guards. I mean, if you're going to post a link to the video, at least get the basic details right please. I love debating this stuff with you guys. So many bold declarations made based on emotional pleas and half truths.. it's so easy to refute.

I would love to see what would happen if a photographer -- or anyone for that matter -- breached the security barriers at an Obama speech to get closer than they're allowed. Oh yes, I'm sure the secret service would kindly ask him or her to please stand back, and if that didn't work maybe they'll threaten to stamp their feet and hold their breath? You guys crack me up.
People have lost any common sense to reason....
The agent, had no idea who that photographer was....they are trained to protect....and look for anything out of the norm....
he was doing his job...bringing a possible problem down....

If this were Hillary or Bernie's Campaign, it wouldn't be any different.

I guess, people refuse to get how these people running for office are facing danger every moment they are in the public....I cannot even imagine what that is like....

However, once again, people live in their protective plastic bubbles they call they're lives, away from the realities of our world.
 
Old 03-06-2016, 12:07 PM
 
Location: West Michigan
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I've never seen a person of color pushed and shoved around like we've seen more than once at a Trump rally. And I've never once heard Senator Sanders--or any other candidate, for that matter, on either side of the political spectrum--egg on that kind of behavior from the stage, even going so far as to assure his cult members that if they should happen to hurt the person they are evicting, no worries, he will pay for their defense in court.

Have you any evidence of anything comparable from any other candidate?
I've never seen that kind of behavior before, either, at a rally and it's coming from Trump egging on his fans. It's disgusting and is going to keep escalating until someone gets seriously hurt. When he tells his fans he'll cover their legal fees if necessary that's like giving them an invitation to abuse others. And telling the audience that someone deserves roughing up or to be thrown out into freezing winter without their coats is inciting more of the same.


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People have lost any common sense to reason....
The agent, had no idea who that photographer was....they are trained to protect....and look for anything out of the norm....
he was doing his job...bringing a possible problem down....

If this were Hillary or Bernie's Campaign, it wouldn't be any different.

I guess, people refuse to get how these people running for office are facing danger every moment they are in the public....I cannot even imagine what that is like....

However, once again, people live in their protective plastic bubbles they call they're lives, away from the realities of our world.
Not true. The press photographer was in a press bull pen created by the Trump people and he tried to set foot outside it. He was no where near Trump to be considered a threat in any way. At other political rallies the press is allowed to roam freely but not at Trump stuff. The secret service guy who did it is under investigation.
 
Old 03-06-2016, 12:29 PM
 
Location: Montgomery County, PA
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Trump's rallies have the feel of WWE events where he was a regular. He is being himself. Those who constantly want him to behave are asking for someone else. This is who Trump is. Love him or leave him.
 
Old 03-06-2016, 12:37 PM
 
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I see no one has touched this one with a ten foot pole because there is no excuse for it.

It's despicable.

Perhaps Trump could take a look at real presidential candidates and how protestors are escorted out minus racial slurs and the crowd taking their turn pushing and shoving.
Could Trump comments, while she was being shoved around by his followers, be any more a case of poor choice of words?

He said "...in the old days, which isn't so long ago, when we were less politically correct that kind of stuff wouldn't have happened.........."

I hate to be presumptuous but I can't help but think Trump knows exactly what he is doing and what a big parts of his audience is. That would also explain his KKK and Duke debacle. Trump is too clever and well versed in PR to let something like this happen on accident.
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