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Old 03-08-2016, 12:25 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Doesn't bother you that he won't do a darn thing he says he will? That he doesn't even mean it?

The man is a complete and utter fraud. As a lifelong Republican (anti-establishment), I tell you this.
Okay, I appreciate the advice, but based on all his interviews in the past, I think he is very consistent.
I think he is clueless on trade, but I definitely don't believe he is another neoconservative hawk.

Prior to the Paris terror attacks, Trump took a more hands-off approach to the Islamic State, suggesting the U.S. outsource the fight to Syria and Russia, was tepid about U.S. involvement in Ukraine and distinguished himself in the Republican field by saying he’d make nice with Vladimir Putin. His tone might be hawkish, he is actually a closet dove. His foreign policy is similar to Rand Paul.

He is the ONLY one who does not view Russia as a potential great threat, I find this refreshing and impressive.
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Old 03-08-2016, 12:28 PM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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So was Ronald Reagan. Starred in many moves.

People made the same sort of argument against him, as you make now.

They were all proved wrong.
Did Ronnie get up on stage and talk about how big his d*ck is?


I think not.
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Old 03-08-2016, 12:29 PM
 
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Glad to hear. Why is the sane right not being heard? Trump supporters are making the most noise online and on cable news.
By my count, the major conservative publications (National Review, Wall Street Journal) have all smeared Trump.

So has Paul Ryan, Mitt Romney, and other prominent Republicans.
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Old 03-08-2016, 12:32 PM
Status: "Elect a clown? Expect a circus!" (set 25 days ago)
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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We need someone to stop the corruption in DC. Neither side wants it to end and the Establishment supporters are all for it.
And the reason(s) to believe Trump would end corruption in DC?

He does after all:

1) Have a history of being one of the corrupters(donors) in the DC 'pay for power' game

2) Have a history of things like accepting illegal loans thru the purchase of (never cashed) chips from his casino


Doesn't sound like he's very opposed to corruption when it benefits him, eh?
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Old 03-08-2016, 12:34 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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The guy is an entertainer. He has absolutely no presidential characteristics.
Obama is the King of Gaffes, so you ought to be used to it by now.

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Old 03-08-2016, 12:36 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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By my count, the major conservative publications (National Review, Wall Street Journal) have all smeared Trump.

So has Paul Ryan, Mitt Romney, and other prominent Republicans.
There are but on here it seems to be a Pro-trump cult calling them biased, globalist or losers and so far in many primaries, these don't matter. I wonder if in November (especially without an "establishment" third party option) of the Trump base well look like buffoons when the map looks only a few states more than Goldwater but no more than Romney.
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Old 03-08-2016, 12:39 PM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Well, I could debate policy issues with you all day here, but since that isn't the topic at hand, I won't. At least you have your eye and ears open. That's a positive. Stay inquisitive. Hopefully your state hasn't voted yet in the primary. Once you get it, it's fairly obvious. The man has no clue what he is talking about on any issue. He says what is expedient at the time. No principles, no consistency.

For instance, have you watched any of the recent debates? Doesn't it concern you at all how he just tries to shout down anyone who would dare raise a legitimate concern about his past actions or statements? He never has a real answer for any of it, ever.

If he were somehow elected, you'd regret it. We all would.
Again, I really appreciate your advice and opinions. I do value them.
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Old 03-08-2016, 12:41 PM
 
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Nobody? Apparently Dbones does. He (?) said "stop" corruption, not me. Regardless, the point is that the notion that Donald Trump should be the man to stop, or even limit corruption in DC is farcical.
You are wordsmithing to win argument that you lost. The rest is opinion. Neither however address the point made. i.e. People are sick and tired of the establishment doing the bidding of their donors and not looking out for the interests of their voters, and this is why they support Trump.
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Old 03-08-2016, 12:42 PM
 
Location: United States
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I guess people would vote for him because the other buffoons aren't even willing to address the issues.
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Old 03-08-2016, 12:49 PM
 
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Donald Trump is more establishment than the establishment. What is so hard to understand about that? Meanwhile, we have a real anti-establishment candidate in the race that all the Trumpbots are either ignoring or denigrating without reason. The point being, if you really wanted what you say you do, you would not support Trump.
Nothing hard to understand about that. You are giving opinion. I completely support your right to hold it.

Since you didn't state the name of the candidate you speak of, I won't address it.
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