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Old 03-08-2016, 11:24 AM
 
Location: Stasis
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What makes Trump a conservative? What conservative principles does he espouse?
He is not a Reagan conservative, not a fiscal conservative, and not a social conservative.
His plan to Make America Great Again © is anti-free trade, tariffs, keep out the bad people, and 19th century bully/ gunboat diplomacy.
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Old 03-08-2016, 11:26 AM
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What makes Trump a conservative? What conservative principles does he espouse?
He is not a Reagan conservative, not a fiscal conservative, and not a social conservative.
His plan to Make America Great Again © is anti-free trade, tariffs, keep out the bad people, and 19th century bully/ gunboat diplomacy.
And adherence to the Bill of Rights:
https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positions

And something else: He's an anti-globalist.

The (globalist) progressive left giggles at the Constitution, calls it outdated.
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Old 03-08-2016, 11:27 AM
 
Location: western East Roman Empire
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What makes Trump a conservative? What conservative principles does he espouse?
Nothing.

He is not so stupid as to box and straight-jacket himself into some meaningless ideology, of which the Constitution makes no mention by the way.

Please, give it a rest.
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Old 03-08-2016, 11:28 AM
 
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What makes Cruz a conservative? He just wants the bible... that isn't a political party stance...
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Old 03-08-2016, 11:29 AM
 
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I don't particularly care for conservative and liberal labels.

They can mean almost anything to anyone.
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Old 03-08-2016, 11:30 AM
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What makes Cruz a conservative? He just wants the bible... that isn't a political party stance...
Well, this:
Ted Cruz on the Issues

And the Bible isn't a political tract.
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Old 03-08-2016, 11:33 AM
 
Location: Somewhere
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The fact that the Führer says so.

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Raise your right hand: ‘I do solemnly swear that I — no matter how I feel, no matter what the conditions, if there’s hurricanes or whatever — will vote, on or before the 12th for Donald J. Trump for president."
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Old 03-08-2016, 12:12 PM
 
Location: Tennessee
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People who are voting for Trump aren't doing it because he's this or that. They're voting for him because on the issues important to them, they want a man of action and common sense. They don't see two lawyers in the Senate, who talk for a living, as being that guy. Unlike other rich guy, Mitt Romney, they can eyeball Trump's accomplishments without anyone explaining it to them.

Have you ever listened to Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio talk? They always sound like they're making a speech (they're good at it) and people who have listened to politicians before know they all sound like that so why expect the outcome to be any different after they get in office. Besides promises, politicians are always telling people 1) what they know (and try to label it as experience) and 2) that they have fought for you. But you have to ask yourself, after those "battles" fought what have they actually accomplished that makes my life better?

When money is needed politicians think "taxes" first. Business executives look for creative alternatives to generate money. Look at Trump's proposals to have other countries pay for the military protection the U.S. provides. Have you ever heard a politician say that?

Look at Trump's alternative proposals to pay for the wall if Mexico doesn't pony up? Increasing taxes is never mentioned.

"Mexico must pay for the wall and, until they do, the United States will, among other things:

-impound all remittance payments derived from illegal wages;
-increase fees on all temporary visas issued to Mexican CEOs and diplomats (and if necessary cancel them);
-increase fees on all border crossing cards – of which we issue about 1 million to Mexican nationals each year (a major source of visa overstays);
-increase fees on all NAFTA worker visas from Mexico (another major source of overstays);
-increase fees at ports of entry to the United States from Mexico.

Tariffs and foreign aid cuts are also options."

https://www.donaldjtrump.com/positio...gration-reform


So, label him anyway you want. Let Ted Cruz preach that Donald Trump isn't a true conservative. For such a smart man, I think it took Cruz an awfully long time to figure out that the label "conservative" wasn't as important to Trump voters as it is to Ted Cruz.
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Old 03-08-2016, 12:18 PM
 
Location: BROOKLYN NYC
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I don't care about the label. What I do know is under a Trump administration, my freedoms (religion, 2nd amendment, etc) are way more likely to be respected then under Hillary. You can take that to the bank, and that's more then enough for me.
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Old 03-08-2016, 12:20 PM
 
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Nothing.

He is not so stupid as to box and straight-jacket himself into some meaningless ideology, of which the Constitution makes no mention by the way.

Please, give it a rest.
Pretty much this. He's just pro-America. Forget the liberal and conservative labels; they both sold us out.
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