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Old 03-09-2016, 07:32 AM
 
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It's a stunning loss for Hillary.
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Old 03-09-2016, 07:51 AM
 
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Most importantly, despite the rigged polls by Establishment Media, is that Michigan reveals that Clinton, in the general election, will definitely lose the rust belt, will lose the Mountain States and the Southwest, all of the South and a handful in the Mid-Atlantic and Northeast. This basically means a wipeout for the Democratics not only for the White House but also for Congress. Trump will attract millions of new voters to the Republican Party, (or whatever it is) while the Democrats will be offering more of the despised Same. It's going to be shellacking as when Reagan ran against Carter.
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Old 03-09-2016, 07:51 AM
 
Location: The Mitten.
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I'm very proud that my Michigan county went for Bernie in a big way.

On the other hand, how terribly embarrassing for that same county to have gone for Cruz!

Oh, please, old religious farts, die soon so the young'uns can take your moldy old places!
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Old 03-09-2016, 07:58 AM
 
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Most importantly, despite the rigged polls by Establishment Media, is that Michigan reveals that Clinton, in the general election, will definitely lose the rust belt, will lose the Mountain States and the Southwest, all of the South and a handful in the Mid-Atlantic and Northeast. This basically means a wipeout for the Democratics not only for the White House but also for Congress. Trump will attract millions of new voters to the Republican Party, (or whatever it is) while the Democrats will be offering more of the despised Same. It's going to be shellacking as when Reagan ran against Carter.
If the polls are rigged, then why do they matter at all?
Besides, many South Carolina and other states underestimated Hilary's margin.
Why do polls also also show trump, who is outside establishment, leading?
Logical failure

Besides, many South Carolina and other states underestimated Hilary's margin.
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Old 03-09-2016, 08:06 AM
 
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If the polls are rigged, then why do they matter at all?
Besides, many South Carolina and other states underestimated Hilary's margin.
Why do polls also also show trump, who is outside establishment, leading?
Logical failure

Besides, many South Carolina and other states underestimated Hilary's margin.
Polls are designed to give the sense of inevitably. Clinton's loss in Michigan demonstrates that her support goes barely beyond the African American population and older women. She is on her way to handing the White House over to Trump and the Congress over to the Republicans. She is a Loser because she is offering more Lies, more Loss of Jobs, more Wall Street corrupted government, more financial repression, and more hopelessness. No one wants more of her and her ilk.
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Old 03-09-2016, 08:15 AM
 
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Most importantly, despite the rigged polls by Establishment Media, is that Michigan reveals that Clinton, in the general election, will definitely lose the rust belt, will lose the Mountain States and the Southwest, all of the South and a handful in the Mid-Atlantic and Northeast. This basically means a wipeout for the Democratics not only for the White House but also for Congress. Trump will attract millions of new voters to the Republican Party, (or whatever it is) while the Democrats will be offering more of the despised Same. It's going to be shellacking as when Reagan ran against Carter.
No, this does not reveal any of that. Not in any conceivable way does it reveal that.

It reveals that Clinton is, as she was in 2008, a terrible candidate and that Sander's message resonates with working class white voters.
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Old 03-09-2016, 08:23 AM
 
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No, this does not reveal any of that. Not in any conceivable way does it reveal that.

It reveals that Clinton is, as she was in 2008, a terrible candidate and that Sander's message resonates with working class white voters.
Right. And by the way, thanks for giving the reasons that the Democrats will get a shellacking in the Fall if Clinton is at the head of the ticket. There just aren't enough African American voters to win a general election.
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Old 03-09-2016, 08:26 AM
 
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Polls are designed to give the sense of inevitably. Clinton's loss in Michigan demonstrates that her support goes barely beyond the African American population and older women. She is on her way to handing the White House over to Trump and the Congress over to the Republicans. She is a Loser because she is offering more Lies, more Loss of Jobs, more Wall Street corrupted government, more financial repression, and more hopelessness. No one wants more of her and her ilk.
You need to make up your mind! You say polls are rigged on one hand and how she will lose in ge on the other hand...
Well let's forget about the polls then.


Massachusetts is the largest state in New England which sanders should have carried after winning big in New Hampshire but he failed!!!!!
Yea he lost by 1.4% in MA but Hillary only lost by 1.5% in Michigan anyways.
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Old 03-09-2016, 10:34 AM
 
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Those who discredit Bernie's win and say he can't get ahead, wow.

March 15th up for grabs:

FL 246 pts
ILL 182 pts
Missouri 84 pts
NC 121 pts
OH 159 pts

Here is the current delegate for each Hillary 745 and Bernie 540

It would be fair to say yes, he certainly has a fair chance.
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Old 03-09-2016, 10:36 AM
 
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Sugah Ray-

Were you able to see Bernie give the speech later in the evening? The news channel I was watching cut him off and didn't air it.

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