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Old 03-09-2016, 03:58 PM
 
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Maybe some of the Evangelists opened their Bible and couldn't bring themselves to vote for someone so deceitful?

https://www.openbible.info/topics/deceit

Everyone should be concerned as to vote for Cruz is approval of his deceit and people familiar with the Bible knows what that holds for them.

Editorial: Cruz's campaign of deceit should worry voters

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...cal-ignorance/

Ooohhh, an editorial an op-ed and a bible website. How scholarly! You could teach at Trump University with this kind of knowledge!!
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Old 03-09-2016, 04:59 PM
 
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You live in TX and didn't know about Cruz? You didn't bother to vote in the election that made him your own senator? Then, you deserve the 'establishment' that you got, and have no business trying to tear it down.
Well that's as convoluted as it is simple-minded. I guess my response would be, because of people like you. That's why. I'm sure that's true of everyone else. We're just tired of having our futures and our destinies being determined by shallow, stupid, superficial people that don't even understand the meanings of the words in their own rhetoric, such as (prime example) the word "conservative".

Conservatives think it's no one else's business if a person burns their own flag. It's a property rights issue. Only simple-minded religious zealots are too clouded by emotion for their 2002-era, single-core 1.2 Ghz Athlon processor to work properly.

Another word religious morons and wing-nuts don't understand: Republic. Most have never read "Plato's Republic", and have no understanding that if one class is better-suited to govern, then by definition others should be excluded from participating in democratic process. Literacy tests.

Most established, mature, grounded Christians understand clearly the boundary between their personal faith and the rights of the people that they seek to govern by their exercise of democratic power. It's the flotsam and jetsam of society that drift into cult-like religious groups, where the collection plate is the primary focus and the Bible is used as a means of indoctrination and control in order to get the congregants to achieve the self-centered goals of the sociopathic Pastor that controls them. The wheels fall off the cart when they encounter people that 1) know biblical scripture and tradition better than they do, 2) are smarter than they are and 3) have the courage to prove both #1, and #2.

Evangelicals exist as slaves to be used by a sociopath. They are given the trappings of spirituality, but like any cult it's paper thin and completely useless to them when they need guidance in their own lives. Dave Ramsey is the most effective spiritual leader I know of, because he fulfills the mission of the church and without any of it's trappings. Gives people spiritual and bible-based tools to effect concrete and definable improvements in their own day-to-day life, and the lives of their family. No faith healing, miracles, or any supernatural mumbo-jumbo. It's street-level implementation of christian and biblical wisdom, and it benefits the individual and not the organization that gave it to them.

Evangelicals exist to further someone else's political agenda, and are discarded immediately after their purpose has been served.
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Old 03-09-2016, 05:15 PM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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A lot of people also believe he's a closeted homosexual.
Is there some sort of secret requirement that if you don't like a candidate then you need to accuse them of being secretly gay? I have read on these boards speculations/accusations about the following candidates being gay:
Hillary
Jeb!
Rubio
Trump
Carly Fiorina
Graham
Can we please embrace the fact that we are in 2016 and not speculate of other adults' sexual preferences?
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Old 03-09-2016, 05:16 PM
 
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That arrogance I see during snowbird season, not against all of them , I even have some friends in London, but met enough Canadians that irked me to no end. And he rubs me that same way.
Amazing. Cruz has lived in the US since he was 4 years old, yet you can still "sense the Canadian" in him.
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Old 03-09-2016, 05:38 PM
 
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I think it just boils down to the fact that the evangelicals are just not very evangelic these days. He just needs to emphasize some of his other attributes, which I think he is already doing. Hooking up with Carly is going to be a great idea I think.
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Old 03-09-2016, 05:51 PM
 
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Well that's as convoluted as it is simple-minded. I guess my response would be, because of people like you. That's why. I'm sure that's true of everyone else. We're just tired of having our futures and our destinies being determined by shallow, stupid, superficial people that don't even understand the meanings of the words in their own rhetoric, such as (prime example) the word "conservative".
Huh? My post wasn't about religion, or conservatism... it was about your failure to actually realize Ted Cruz was your senator until he was running for president.

Go off on a tirade in response... so, I guess you are basically admitting that you didn't bother to get to know anything about elections until you found a candidate with the same hateful rhetoric you display? Congrats on that.

Because of people like me? Your response is that you didn't bother to vote because of people like me? People like me didn't stop you from voting in your own senate election. People like me think that you are " shallow, stupid, superficial people that don't even understand the meanings of the words in their own rhetoric". People like me could give a s--t less about your opinions on religion and conservatism. People like me just don't care that you bow down at the altar of trump. Upon reviewing your posting history, it is clear that you are indeed a perfect trump supporter. Congrats on that, too.

Last edited by kat in aiken; 03-09-2016 at 05:52 PM.. Reason: correct typo - it is altar not alter... although altering trump might be a good idea.
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Old 03-09-2016, 06:50 PM
 
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Is there some sort of secret requirement that if you don't like a candidate then you need to accuse them of being secretly gay? I have read on these boards speculations/accusations about the following candidates being gay:
Hillary
Jeb!
Rubio
Trump
Carly Fiorina
Graham
Can we please embrace the fact that we are in 2016 and not speculate of other adults' sexual preferences?
Dang it, you broke the code.
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Old 03-09-2016, 06:59 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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I've lived in Texas over 20 years, and never heard of him until just prior to the Presidential election.


Lived, or live?

If you have not heard of Ted, you have not lived in Texas for over 5 years.
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Old 03-09-2016, 07:01 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Succinctly, even the Evangelicals are fed up.
If it were just Ted and "The Donald" standing, Ted would be way ahead of "The Donald", in all categories.
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Old 03-10-2016, 12:00 AM
 
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I overheard a story about Cruz losing the Evangelicals that he thought he had locked in and so did some googling on opinions. My personal opinion is that the deceitfulness of his campaign has turned many moral individuals toward him.

This is an article that I think nails it down, I mean, do you want a minister or a POTUS that will protect our citizens?

Charles Krauthammer: Evangelicals leave Cruz for Trump - Omaha.com: Opinion

And, another source: Why Ted Cruz is losing evangelicals to Donald Trump | MSNBC

Obviously, I consider Ted Cruz pure poison for our country. Is is critical that church and state remain separate.
Not all evangelicals follow David Barton, they are split. That's part of it too.
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