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Old 03-09-2016, 10:21 AM
 
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Another Trump supporter trying to push Bernie as a candidate.


Why is that?
Dear. I've mentioned to you time & time again that attempt to make topic about me isn't an effective debate tactic. It simply means you can't or won't address point made.
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Old 03-09-2016, 10:23 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Default Not so fast...

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With exception of Mass, Hillary doesn't seem to be able to win states that have traditionally voted Blue in presidential elections. Almost all of them go Red.

Does this mean she is going to lose big time, as in landslide loss, in general election?
Stay tuned for further developments.
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Old 03-09-2016, 10:27 AM
 
Location: West Michigan
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All said and done, Hillary was only down one delegate from Bernie's in Michigan. He might have gotten bragging rights but it was really too close to be significant in the grand scheme of things.
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Old 03-09-2016, 11:17 AM
 
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If Clinton and Trumpf are nominated, Bernie will campaign for Hillary. Sanderistias might vote for Clinton reluctantly, but most probably will. IMHO, it's a greater likelihood that they refuse to vote in the general election for either candidate than support Donald Trumpf in large numbers.
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Old 03-09-2016, 11:38 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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If Clinton and Trumpf are nominated, Bernie will campaign for Hillary. Sanderistias might vote for Clinton reluctantly, but most probably will. IMHO, it's a greater likelihood that they refuse to vote in the general election for either candidate than support Donald Trumpf in large numbers.
Sanders supporters may or may not vote for Clinton, but her ethical center is anathema to them. More than likely a very large number will sit out the election or possibly vote for Trump. But no matter what, no corrupt Establishment candidate is going to win this election. Clinton supporters will only have to look at themselves for handing over the Government to the Republicans. It's too bad that so many Democrats favor corruption in government and the rule of the Plutocracy, but so be it.
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Old 03-09-2016, 11:41 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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Sanders supporters may or may not vote for Clinton, but her ethical center is anathema to them. More than likely a very large number will sit out the election or possibly vote for Trump. But no matter what, no corrupt Establishment candidate is going to win this election. Clinton supporters will only have to look at themselves for handing over the Government to the Republicans. It's too bad that so many Democrats arm to favor corruption in government and the rule of the Plutocracy, but so be it.
Hmmm. If Bernie wins the nomination and then HE loses against Trump (likely) - then who will you blame?

Yourself?

Trump will only have to bring out one of Bernie's more . . communist speeches (and you know they are out here on the web). Then he'll tag him with a name (remember low-energy Bush and lyin Ted and Little Marco) something like . .Commie Bernie.

And then it will be over.

And YOU will be to blame.
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Old 03-09-2016, 11:42 AM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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With exception of Mass, Hillary doesn't seem to be able to win states that have traditionally voted Blue in presidential elections. Almost all of them go Red.

Does this mean she is going to lose big time, as in landslide loss, in general election?
Barack Obama lost,

New York, Florida, Ohio, Pennsylvania, California, Indiana, Nevada, New Mexico, Massachusetts,New Hampshire , Rhode Island, and New Jersey to Hillary.

Obviously one can win the general without winning big Democratic States as that was Barack Obamas strategy.

He also lost Michigan to her as well, but he took his name off the ballot.
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Old 03-09-2016, 11:43 AM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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She is winning the African Americans in the south like 90-10. They constitute something like 40-60% of the Dem primaries. African Americans are not swing voters in the general election. She is as popular as Oprah in this demographic in the South.

When she struggles so badly among the working class and independents in the rust belt states, she is a bad general election candidate.
So Barack Obama was a bad general election candidate ?
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Old 03-09-2016, 11:44 AM
 
Location: Chicago
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Hmmm. If Bernie wins the nomination and then HE loses against Trump (likely) - then who will you blame?

Yourself?

Trump will only have to bring out one of Bernie's more . . communist speeches (and you know they are out here on the web). Then he'll tag him with a name (remember low-energy Bush and lyin Ted and Little Marco) something like . .Commie Bernie.

And then it will be over.

And YOU will be to blame.
Bernie will do great against Trump. The year 2016 is all about people are totally Fed up with their corrupt government that exists only for the benefit of the top 1%.
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Old 03-09-2016, 11:55 AM
 
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With exception of Mass, Hillary doesn't seem to be able to win states that have traditionally voted Blue in presidential elections. Almost all of them go Red.

Does this mean she is going to lose big time, as in landslide loss, in general election?

No. It's not about blue states and it's not about red states - the states that matter are purple states. And so far Clinton has won Virginia, SC, and Neveda.

Don't worry about those other states, pay attention to the swing states - Ohio, Florida, Virginia, SC, NC, Neveda, Wisconsin, PA, Colorado, etc.
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