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Old 03-08-2016, 10:09 PM
 
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With exception of Mass, Hillary doesn't seem to be able to win states that have traditionally voted Blue in presidential elections. Almost all of them go Red.

Does this mean she is going to lose big time, as in landslide loss, in general election?
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Old 03-08-2016, 10:13 PM
 
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She lost 70-28 among independents in Michigan and the working class is against her. She does exceptionally well among African Americans in the South. Sanders is clearly the best general election candidate.
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Old 03-08-2016, 10:14 PM
 
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She won by 30% in Virginia which is a major swing state
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Old 03-08-2016, 10:17 PM
 
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She won by 30% in Virginia which is a major swing state
She is winning the African Americans in the south like 90-10. They constitute something like 40-60% of the Dem primaries. African Americans are not swing voters in the general election. She is as popular as Oprah in this demographic in the South.

When she struggles so badly among the working class and independents in the rust belt states, she is a bad general election candidate.
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Old 03-08-2016, 10:18 PM
 
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African Americans are about as monolithic of a voting group as it gets. In general, they weren't fully behind Hillary just even three months ago. Can you imagine the deals and promises that Hill and Mr Wasserman Shultz made with leaders a cross the black community? Scary to think about.
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Old 03-08-2016, 10:19 PM
 
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She won by 30% in Virginia which is a major swing state
Maybe. But I'm thinking that Hillary doesn't have it in her to keep that state in the Blue category. Mark Warner, just barely got re-elected and this only because it was considered a "safe seat' and thus wasn't targeted by the RNC. If he had faced the same campaign as Kay Hagan did in NC, he'd be history now.
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Old 03-08-2016, 10:25 PM
 
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With exception of Mass, Hillary doesn't seem to be able to win states that have traditionally voted Blue in presidential elections. Almost all of them go Red.

Does this mean she is going to lose big time, as in landslide loss, in general election?
No kitty,

The blue states will still vote blue. The red states will vote red and the purple states will define the election.

And no, Sanders supporters are not gonna switch to Trump or skip the election.
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Old 03-08-2016, 10:30 PM
 
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No kitty,

The blue states will still vote blue. The red states will vote red and the purple states will define the election.

And no, Sanders supporters are not gonna switch to Trump or skip the election.
The working class in states like Ohio, Pennsylvania and Michigan often flip between a New Dealer straight shooter like Sanders, and someone like Trump. Sanders won 70-28 among the independents in Michigan btw.

Its this type of cross-over appeal which makes Sanders such an immensely strong general election candidate.


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Old 03-08-2016, 10:58 PM
 
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No kitty,

The blue states will still vote blue. The red states will vote red and the purple states will define the election.

And no, Sanders supporters are not gonna switch to Trump or skip the election.
Results in Michigan tonight make me think this isn't the case, Mr. Ray.

Once DNC uses rules trickery to get rid of Bernie, I'm seeing a lot of disaffected voters who will refuse to vote for the Donor Class supported candidate.
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Old 03-08-2016, 11:08 PM
 
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Results in Michigan tonight make me think this isn't the case, Mr. Ray.

Once DNC uses rules trickery to get rid of Bernie, I'm seeing a lot of disaffected voters who will refuse to vote for the Donor Class supported candidate.
Mrs Kitty,
More people voted for Hillary than for Trump in Michigan. About 100,000 people. It doesn't matter if it is a 2 or 4 person race. More people took the time to vote for Hillary than for Trump.

And these Clinton vs Trump polls don't look so good:

RealClearPolitics - Election 2016 - Michigan: Trump vs. Clinton
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