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Old 03-09-2016, 01:32 AM
 
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That would explain why Hillary's backside looks the way it does......
Lol! Oh now now... I think she doesn't look so bad. I'm younger than her and I wish I had her energy and relatively slim figure.

Her voice on the other hand is quite grating. She sounds like she's nagging when she speaks, but maybe she's trying to project authority.
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Old 03-09-2016, 01:35 AM
 
Location: Bran's tree
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My son is a die hard Bernie supporter and has expressed frustration with this entitlement issue. Nevertheless he will vote for Hillary if she's the nominee.

I guess she's been force fed to the masses huh? I've been wondering why after 8 years of Obama there didn't even seem to be an effort by any other democrat to run. I think it's really weird and do wonder if there's some shenanigans... ha! Well, that wouldn't be a surprise...

Help me out here Clinton supporters!! Tell me I can trust her and she'd be trustworthy!
...um, first woman president would be pretty neat, I guess?


That's all I've got. :/ I can't bring myself to lie.
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Old 03-09-2016, 07:13 AM
 
Location: Philadelphia
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My son is a die hard Bernie supporter and has expressed frustration with this entitlement issue. Nevertheless he will vote for Hillary if she's the nominee.

I guess she's been force fed to the masses huh? I've been wondering why after 8 years of Obama there didn't even seem to be an effort by any other democrat to run. I think it's really weird and do wonder if there's some shenanigans... ha! Well, that wouldn't be a surprise...

Help me out here Clinton supporters!! Tell me I can trust her and she'd be trustworthy!
Disclaimer: Not a Clinton fan, but I don't think even her most ardent supporters believe her to be trustworthy or honest. In fact on another thread some were saying that lying can be a good quality .
Most of the support I have seen for her is "because she's better than Trump". That is horrible reasoning IMO.

Besides, Bernie does better against Trump in matchups. He refuses to even mention Sanders name, and backed away from a Fox News debate with him.

Fox News Almost Hosted a Trump/Sanders Debate, But Trump Backed Out | Mediaite

I think it's pretty obvious who the stronger general election candidate would be for the Dems at this point.

People are tired of the lies, general routine in politics, being told who is the "inevitable candidate" by a corporately owned media that is trusted less than Hillary today. When an honest straight shooter like Bernie comes along it is a breath of fresh air. Nothing personal Hillary-you just have very bad luck running against historic, mobilizing candidates.
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Old 03-09-2016, 10:24 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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resume.. experience.. not so left..

Bingo. 99.9% of the time - the political Centrist wins.

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From a personality standpoint - Sanders seems like a much more likeable/genuine person.

Honestly, I could care less if my President is 'likeable'. A nice bonus but big balls is better. And Hillary has those.

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Sanders has a longer resume and more experience in politics though doesn't he?... she however is "the star".
His resume is not as qualified as hers; spending 30 years in the Senate accomplishing . . not much until he decided last year that he wanted a 'revolution'. With not ONE; not one idea how to accomplish said revolution. Not one Congressman; not one Senator could he name in the debate that would vote for ANY of his ideas.


Just FYI.


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Disclaimer: Not a Clinton fan, but I don't think even her most ardent supporters believe her to be trustworthy or honest. In fact on another thread some were saying that lying can be a good quality .
Most of the support I have seen for her is "because she's better than Trump". That is horrible reasoning IMO.

Besides, Bernie does better against Trump in matchups. He refuses to even mention Sanders name, and backed away from a Fox News debate with him.

Fox News Almost Hosted a Trump/Sanders Debate, But Trump Backed Out | Mediaite

I think it's pretty obvious who the stronger general election candidate would be for the Dems at this point.

People are tired of the lies, general routine in politics, being told who is the "inevitable candidate" by a corporately owned media that is trusted less than Hillary today. When an honest straight shooter like Bernie comes along it is a breath of fresh air. Nothing personal Hillary-you just have very bad luck running against historic, mobilizing candidates.
I don't believe any politician is completely trustworthy and that includes Bernie. Can we read some of his more communist speeches, by the way?


Let's share those.


Republicans will.
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Old 03-09-2016, 10:37 AM
 
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Just wondering... Clinton has such a bad reputation and Sanders seems to be honest. They seem to be on the same page on so many issues, what is driving Clinton supporters?

Disclaimer... I'm not a Clinton fan, but I'm also not a Sanders supporter. I'm not enamored with any of the candidates to be honest. So... does anyone want to sell me on Hillary Clinton?



Most of Clinton's life has been lived on a "public stage" with assists by the media's "honesty and trustworthy" smear campaigns. We know nothing about Sanders because the media haven't placed him under the microscope!.

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Old 03-09-2016, 10:45 AM
 
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Bingo. 99.9% of the time - the political Centrist wins.




Honestly, I could care less if my President is 'likeable'. A nice bonus but big balls is better. And Hillary has those.



His resume is not as qualified as hers; spending 30 years in the Senate accomplishing . . not much until he decided last year that he wanted a 'revolution'. With not ONE; not one idea how to accomplish said revolution. Not one Congressman; not one Senator could he name in the debate that would vote for ANY of his ideas.


Just FYI.




I don't believe any politician is completely trustworthy and that includes Bernie. Can we read some of his more communist speeches, by the way?


Let's share those.


Republicans will.
Look at a crucial state like Michigan. Once again he crushed Hillary 70-28 among independents and had a big win among white working class voters. These are the CENTRIST voters in a real democracy in a general election. Polling shows that the American people are social democrats or New Dealers. They are NOT against these policies! They are the swing voters. These labels which the corporate media uses on candidates as "centrist" mean something totally different than being mainstream. Centrist in corporate media jargon means appealing to as many big money corporate interests as possible. So people like Jeb Bush, Clinton and Rubio are "centrists". Politically brave means going against the will of the people. These terms are highly deceptive.
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Old 03-09-2016, 10:48 AM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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Name/Face recognition . We (Americans) saw her in the White House . She's been a much much more public figure versus Sanders.

Her husband having been President helps her a lot, I know she's accomplished a lot on her own as well..but Bill Clinton is still a very popular guy. Even Republicans don't hate Bill Clinton these days and he seems very respected.

Sanders has a stronger more authentic message and revolutionary/protest message and language which is appealing to a lot of younger voters more than Clinton.
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Old 03-09-2016, 10:48 AM
 
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I think because all the voters see is Bill and not Hillary without realizing both Bill and Hillary's mental faculties have decreased over the last 20 plus years. Now they are screaming old loons who have been exposed for the SHADY Sopranos they are.

Other than not I have no clue why:

1. Hillary couldn't even assume the responsibilities of SecofState (And you think she could handle being prez?)
2. She's buried need deep up to arse in corruption between Benghazi, the emails, and Clinton Extortion..err..... Foundation
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Old 03-09-2016, 10:51 AM
 
Location: Sagle, ID
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My son is a die hard Bernie supporter and has expressed frustration with this entitlement issue. Nevertheless he will vote for Hillary if she's the nominee.

I guess she's been force fed to the masses huh? I've been wondering why after 8 years of Obama there didn't even seem to be an effort by any other democrat to run. I think it's really weird and do wonder if there's some shenanigans... ha! Well, that wouldn't be a surprise...

Help me out here Clinton supporters!! Tell me I can trust her and she'd be trustworthy!
You already answered your own question.

My question for you is whether or not you will be one of the suckers/lemmings, or will use your own brain to decide that Hillary is not right for your or America?
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Old 03-09-2016, 11:23 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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I think because all the voters see is Bill and not Hillary without realizing both Bill and Hillary's mental faculties have decreased over the last 20 plus years. Now they are screaming old loons who have been exposed for the SHADY Sopranos they are.

Other than not I have no clue why:

1. Hillary couldn't even assume the responsibilities of SecofState (And you think she could handle being prez?)
2. She's buried need deep up to arse in corruption between Benghazi, the emails, and Clinton Extortion..err..... Foundation
Lol. Sanders completely comes across as the 'screaming old loon'. Complete with the constantly wagging finger and preaching a socialist utopia that will never exist.

And giving speeches that sound more like communist speeches.

Check them out.
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