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Old 03-10-2016, 06:51 PM
 
Location: Austin TX
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The Alternet article demonstrates why Sanders ought to stay in Senate. He's good there.
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Old 03-11-2016, 08:51 AM
 
Location: Austin TX
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A good read on why Sanders would fail in the White House:

Clinton Can Govern More Effectively Than Sanders - The Atlantic

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Sanders as president would be left with two main options: reduce his goals to aim for more incremental progress, or adopt a defensive approach to keep Obama’s policies from being rolled back—exactly what he has condemned in Hillary Clinton’s approach to governance. And while Sanders has been a more effective lawmaker than Cruz (or Rubio, for that matter, as demonstrated by Rick Santorum’s embarrassing failure on Morning Joe to find one accomplishment for his endorsee) there is little evidence that he has or could build the kinds of relationships with other members of Congress, or find ways to move the now humongous boulder up the hill (or Hill) of a thoroughly dysfunctional governing process. And, of course, he would face the deep disappointment of the activists he has inspired.
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Old 03-11-2016, 10:49 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Just wondering... Clinton has such a bad reputation and Sanders seems to be honest. They seem to be on the same page on so many issues, what is driving Clinton supporters?

Disclaimer... I'm not a Clinton fan, but I'm also not a Sanders supporter. I'm not enamored with any of the candidates to be honest. So... does anyone want to sell me on Hillary Clinton?
Many believe Clinton is the only person who can Trump Trump. They believe Clinton's experiences and electability.

The uber-capitalist versus the democratic socialist, most would still feel a little bit more comfortable with the first.
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Old 03-11-2016, 05:19 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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Many believe Clinton is the only person who can Trump Trump. They believe Clinton's experiences and electability.

The uber-capitalist versus the democratic socialist, most would still feel a little bit more comfortable with the first.
The uber-capitalist that's not a fan of Uber

Forbes Welcome

The companies do seem pretty exploitative though , so perhaps she has a point.
On one hand they are providing 'flexible' income for a lot of people, but they are also using their driver's cars for free and doing paycuts whenever.
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Old 03-11-2016, 05:21 PM
 
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The Alternet article demonstrates why Sanders ought to stay in Senate. He's good there.

I approved this post.

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Old 03-11-2016, 05:52 PM
 
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Burnie has brainwashed the younger generation with his bold and empty promises. His policies, if turns out not to empty and really can be fully implemented, will spill disaster on the economy. He will drive many businesses, especially the major ones, out of the U.S. by substantially increasing taxes and weakening the American workfoce by setting the minimum wage so high. He will also I increase the national debt by substantial amounts.

The US is way more diverse than European countries and blindly following their model just show how incompetent he is.
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Old 03-11-2016, 06:05 PM
 
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He's DANGEROUS! I'm tellin' ya! Expanding social security and medicare is PURE COMMUNISM! The younger generation (under 50) MUST accept that the military industrial complex controls foreign policy, Wall Street controls the economic policy and the health insurance companies controls the health care policy. The people should not have a say in these things of course.
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Old 03-11-2016, 06:57 PM
 
Location: Los Angeles (Native)
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Burnie has brainwashed the younger generation with his bold and empty promises. His policies, if turns out not to empty and really can be fully implemented, will spill disaster on the economy. He will drive many businesses, especially the major ones, out of the U.S. by substantially increasing taxes and weakening the American workfoce by setting the minimum wage so high. He will also I increase the national debt by substantial amounts.

The US is way more diverse than European countries and blindly following their model just show how incompetent he is.
Yes, there is far too much poverty in this country and too many people scraping by on minimum wage.
Many large cities including San Francisco, Seattle and Los Angeles have passed laws which raise the minimum wage quite drastically.

Minimum Wage increase laws are great for politicians because they can say they've "done something" while putting the burden on private industry and small businesses.
People think these laws are great because they don't realize the tiny margins that most small businesses survive on.
What will happen for sure is businesses will either : close up, lay off employees, cut workers hours drastically AND raise prices.

Yes working for minimum wage is NOT ideal, but it's better for people to have a job versus no job.
The fact is that more people in Seattle are without jobs .

Recent article about this:
Blog: Hey, Seattle! How's that $15 minimum wage working out for ya?

No doubt something like a federal $15 minimum wage would destroy tons of businesses and lead to massive unemployment.

Another question is..if raising the minimum wage doesn't have any negative effect on business or employment and only has positives..why only raise it to $15 hour?

In Los Angeles it is said that one needs a wage of $33 an hour to afford the average apartment.
http://www.scpr.org/blogs/economy/20...to-afford-ave/

Wouldn't $33 an hour be better for cities like Los Angeles or San Francisco or New York that are expensive?
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Old 03-11-2016, 07:35 PM
 
Location: Central Illinois -
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Just wondering... Clinton has such a bad reputation and Sanders seems to be honest. They seem to be on the same page on so many issues, what is driving Clinton supporters?

Disclaimer... I'm not a Clinton fan, but I'm also not a Sanders supporter. I'm not enamored with any of the candidates to be honest. So... does anyone want to sell me on Hillary Clinton?
Clinton has a much stronger ground game, she has name recognition, she has locked up the minority vote and has most of the middle aged and older female vote. And yet Bernie is hanging around because he has a message that people are desperate to hear.

Anyone other than Sanders would have folded their tent long ago in face of the Clinton machine. But Bernies message continues to resonate, as it should. He is far and away a better candidate for President.
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Old 03-11-2016, 08:18 PM
 
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Just wondering... Clinton has such a bad reputation and Sanders seems to be honest. They seem to be on the same page on so many issues, what is driving Clinton supporters?

Disclaimer... I'm not a Clinton fan, but I'm also not a Sanders supporter. I'm not enamored with any of the candidates to be honest. So... does anyone want to sell me on Hillary Clinton?
My heart is with Bernie, but my experienced head knows better.

Elections are won in the middle, electing a far left politician is just too difficult, especially following eight years of a democratic administration. We can't risk having a Republican bigot with fascist and authoritarian tendencies getting his hands on our reins of power.

As much as I like Bernie's policies, he's a 'bridge too far'. Self described socialists don't win national elections in America, period, end of story. Welcome to America...
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