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Old 03-11-2016, 08:22 PM
 
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Just wondering... Clinton has such a bad reputation and Sanders seems to be honest. They seem to be on the same page on so many issues, what is driving Clinton supporters?

Disclaimer... I'm not a Clinton fan, but I'm also not a Sanders supporter. I'm not enamored with any of the candidates to be honest. So... does anyone want to sell me on Hillary Clinton?
Simple. Sanders would never be able to get his idealistic (=socialist) measures through Congress. He's never even been able to get any of his legislative proposals considered at all, as a Congressman.

I think the Democratic Party needs to do a better job of fostering talent and coming up with good candidates. The Republicans aren't the only ones who have a problem, though theirs has reached crisis proportions at the current time.
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Old 03-11-2016, 09:39 PM
 
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Simple. Sanders would never be able to get his idealistic (=socialist) measures through Congress. He's never even been able to get any of his legislative proposals considered at all, as a Congressman.
Thats a blatant lie.

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Old 03-11-2016, 09:43 PM
 
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My heart is with Bernie, but my experienced head knows better.

Elections are won in the middle, electing a far left politician is just too difficult,
He's mainstream America, that's why he is winning heavily over Hillary among independents and working class white voters.

He's running on the same political platform as FDR and Truman, two of the most popular presidents in US history, views he has had for more than 30 years.

If you like Bernie, vote for Bernie. If he wins, you can vote for him again in the general.
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Old 03-11-2016, 09:45 PM
 
Location: Chicago, IL
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I don't support either of them, but I find Sanders to be very refreshing and genuine. Hillary is so calculated, so status quo, has ties to Wall Street, doesn't how to use emails or protect classified information properly, and your average lying politician. For the life of me I don't know why she is beating Sanders other than the simple fact she has much more name recognition, wealth, and influence. She would be crushed by him otherwise.
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Old 03-11-2016, 10:02 PM
 
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Simple. Sanders would never be able to get his idealistic (=socialist) measures through Congress. He's never even been able to get any of his legislative proposals considered at all, as a Congressman.
He's a Senator, not a Congressman.
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Old 03-12-2016, 12:10 AM
 
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Old 03-12-2016, 09:49 AM
 
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The people who have worked with him as a Senator feel otherwise. All talk; little action.
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Old 03-12-2016, 11:10 AM
 
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The people who have worked with him as a Senator feel otherwise. All talk; little action.
Of course senators will support who they have endorsed. That goes without saying. But we have to look beyond this campaign rhetoric and look at the record. And that article sums it up nicely.
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Old 03-12-2016, 12:50 PM
 
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The people who have worked with him as a Senator feel otherwise. All talk; little action.
And I'll assume you know what happens to Clinton dissenters if she gets the nomination, right?
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Old 03-12-2016, 01:59 PM
 
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My son is a die hard Bernie supporter and has expressed frustration with this entitlement issue. Nevertheless he will vote for Hillary if she's the nominee.

I guess she's been force fed to the masses huh? I've been wondering why after 8 years of Obama there didn't even seem to be an effort by any other democrat to run. I think it's really weird and do wonder if there's some shenanigans... ha! Well, that wouldn't be a surprise...

Help me out here Clinton supporters!! Tell me I can trust her and she'd be trustworthy!
She's trustworthy. The problem she has is that the Republicans like to spin everything she says/does in ways that make her look untrustworthy. I think they fear her more than anything. If they would stop with "inventing scandals" she'd be unstoppable. She actually works well with Republicans (look at her years in the Senate).
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