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No, they don't. That may be your perception of what is morally right, but it isn't the reality. Only if the candidate gets 1237 delegates do they have to nominate that candidate. If not, all bets are off and someone else can legitimately be picked, according to the letter of the rules, the rules mind you, that all the candidates agreed to when they entered the race via the Republican Party.
You do know I was speaking figuratively, right? Because judging from your response, it would seem like you thought I was speaking literally.
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Of course they said that, because neither of them would benefit from an open convention. If Cruz thought he stood a snowball's chance in an open convention, he'd be right there with Rubio and Kasich hoping for one. But regardless of what they said about it, that's not what the rules that they agreed to say has to happen. If neither gets 1237 delegates, the party is perfectly within it's rights to pick someone else, and no one will have gotten "robbed"....
I never expected to change your mind. Like they say, you can't reason someone out of a position that they weren't reasoned in to in the first place. But for anyone out there who might be just reading through
this thread, I want them to know that there are other ways to look at this situation that don't line up with your views. Your view, in my opinion, is the irresponsible, reckless view. They can decide for themselves.
Funny, I would describe your view the same exact way.
You do know I was speaking figuratively, right? Because judging from your response, it would seem like you thought I was speaking literally.
Funny, I would describe your view the same exact way.
For the first time, I just looked at your location. Two states that are a very deep shade of blue. Assuming you actually live there, your point is moot, because your vote isn't going to count anyway. The reality is that the electoral votes from either of those states is likely going to the Democrats the way they always do.
Republican party isn't losing anything by you refusing to vote for them.
For the first time, I just looked at your location. Two states that are a very deep shade of blue. Assuming you actually live there, your point is moot, because your vote isn't going to count anyway. The electoral votes from either of those states is going to the Democrats like they always do.
Republican party isn't losing anything by you being mad at them.
"If no candidate receives a majority of the Electoral College votes in a US Presidential election, the states' delegations to the House of Representatives select the president. Each state's delegation receives one vote. The House must select from the top three Electoral College vote getters (i.e. the three candidates with the highest Electoral College vote totals), and the winner must receive the majority of votes. A minimum 2/3rds quorum (i.e. 2/3rds of the states's delegations must be present, and the winner must get a simple majority of that quorum). Only state delegations can vote in such a tie-breaker (e.g. the District of Columbia's Electoral representatives are excluded, and D.C. does not get a vote). Voting rounds continue until there is a winner."
"If no candidate receives a majority of the Electoral College votes in a US Presidential election, the states' delegations to the House of Representatives select the president. Each state's delegation receives one vote. The House must select from the top three Electoral College vote getters (i.e. the three candidates with the highest Electoral College vote totals), and the winner must receive the majority of votes. A minimum 2/3rds quorum (i.e. 2/3rds of the states's delegations must be present, and the winner must get a simple majority of that quorum). Only state delegations can vote in such a tie-breaker (e.g. the District of Columbia's Electoral representatives are excluded, and D.C. does not get a vote). Voting rounds continue until there is a winner."
What is the point of voting? I know this is what they want, people to stop voting and have low voter turnout so a Hitler can weasel in. However, if they steal the vote, that means we are at the point of no return, so again, what is the point?
Folks who want outsiders to shake things up need to pay attention to down-ticket races and vote in outsiders to Congress whenever possible. That would make a bigger impact than electing just Trump or Sanders. However, there's the risk that voting in the outsider might be even worse. Be careful what you wish for.
No matter who the nominees are, it will be interesting to see the impact there will be on this year's Congressional races.
If Trump is the nominee, who will his supporters vote for in the House and Senate?
If the nomination is "stolen" from Trump, who will his supporters vote for in the House and Senate?
I said earlier in the thread that I would vote for Trump in the general if he were the nominee, even though I can't stand him. I said I would do it, because even he would be better than Hillary and I must put what's best for the country ahead of my own personal opinions.'
I am now ready to rescind that pledge.
If Trump is the Republican nominee, I WILL NOT vote for him. I just can't see Trump sitting in the situation room, being in charge of having to make a split second decision that could cost our soldiers their lives.
I won't vote for Hillary either, I will likely wright in some other Republican name, but if it came right down to it, I would even rather Hillary be sitting at that table than Donald Trump.
I said I would do what is best for this country ahead of everything else, and I have now decided what is best for this country is for Trump to never set foot in the White House, even if that means the alternative is Hillary Clinton.
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