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Old 03-10-2016, 11:26 AM
 
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With all of the time and energy I see devoted to the discussion of candidates, I see none devoted to the actual process we go through every 4 years.

In the beginning, candidates spend millions to buy our votes. This fact alone should alarm everyone. We are then given 2 choices, b/c we all know third party candidates never stand a chance. These 2 choices always leave us choosing the lesser of 2 evils. And the one who wins has limited power b/c he or she has to return favors to all the special interests that got them into office to begin with.

So I must ask, does it really matter who occupies the WH when we have had the same hapless idiots doing so for at least half a century?.
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Old 03-11-2016, 06:31 AM
 
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Not surprised by the lack of responses, enjoy your sham election.
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Old 03-11-2016, 06:32 AM
 
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With all of the time and energy I see devoted to the discussion of candidates, I see none devoted to the actual process we go through every 4 years.

In the beginning, candidates spend millions to buy our votes. This fact alone should alarm everyone. We are then given 2 choices, b/c we all know third party candidates never stand a chance. These 2 choices always leave us choosing the lesser of 2 evils. And the one who wins has limited power b/c he or she has to return favors to all the special interests that got them into office to begin with.

So I must ask, does it really matter who occupies the WH when we have had the same hapless idiots doing so for at least half a century?.
That's why I support Bernie. I guess you don't see him as an option...He's a good one to get hings moving in the right direction. We've got to start somewhere
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Old 03-11-2016, 08:55 AM
 
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That's why I support Bernie. I guess you don't see him as an option...He's a good one to get hings moving in the right direction. We've got to start somewhere
I shall look deeper within this link, but I do like what I see on the surface:
Bernie Sanders on the Issues

He also wants to break up large banks, which is step in the right direction of eliminating the Fed Res entirely.
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Old 03-11-2016, 09:02 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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With all of the time and energy I see devoted to the discussion of candidates, I see none devoted to the actual process we go through every 4 years.

In the beginning, candidates spend millions to buy our votes. This fact alone should alarm everyone. We are then given 2 choices, b/c we all know third party candidates never stand a chance. These 2 choices always leave us choosing the lesser of 2 evils. And the one who wins has limited power b/c he or she has to return favors to all the special interests that got them into office to begin with.

So I must ask, does it really matter who occupies the WH when we have had the same hapless idiots doing so for at least half a century?.
In the 1970s, I had the pleasure of seeing journalist Jimmy Brezlin give a talk in front of a college audience and somebody said, "it doesn't matter who is President." Brezlin correctly said, 'a few years ago, Nixon was President and his Attorney General was John Mitchell, who sent in the Nation Guard to beat up college demonstrators. Had Humphrey won that election, his AG would have been Ramsey Clarke, who was a leader in the anti-war movement. It matters a lot who is elected."
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Old 03-11-2016, 09:04 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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I shall look deeper within this link, but I do like what I see on the surface:
Bernie Sanders on the Issues

He also wants to break up large banks, which is step in the right direction of eliminating the Fed Res entirely.
Why do you want to eliminate the Federal Reserve, exactly? The Fed has done an admirable job managing monetary policy over the last 100 years -- especially if you compare it to the 100 years that preceded the Fed.
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Old 03-11-2016, 09:16 AM
 
Location: New York
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Why do you want to eliminate the Federal Reserve, exactly? The Fed has done an admirable job managing monetary policy over the last 100 years -- especially if you compare it to the 100 years that preceded the Fed.
Agree somewhat - not get rid it, the federal reserve needs to be audited!!
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Old 03-11-2016, 10:51 AM
 
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Why do you want to eliminate the Federal Reserve, exactly? The Fed has done an admirable job managing monetary policy over the last 100 years -- especially if you compare it to the 100 years that preceded the Fed.
It is a Ponzi scheme of credit designed for only 1 purpose, to rob Americans of true wealth through the systematic manipulation of interest rates and inflation.

Washington is waiting for people like me to die, so they can dupe a new generation of immigrants who don't know any better. Nothing is free, in the end someone always pays:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j282JKnmeVo

“It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and money system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning.”
-Henry Ford

“I am afraid the ordinary citizen will not like to be told that the banks can and do create money. And they who control the credit of the nation direct the policy of Governments and hold in the hollow of their hand the destiny of the people.”
Reginald McKenna, as Chairman of the Midland Bank, addressing stockholders in 1924.
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Old 03-11-2016, 11:05 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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Why do you want to eliminate the Federal Reserve, exactly? The Fed has done an admirable job managing monetary policy over the last 100 years -- especially if you compare it to the 100 years that preceded the Fed.
Exactly!

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Agree somewhat - not get rid it, the federal reserve needs to be audited!!
Audited would be a good thing.

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It is a Ponzi scheme of credit designed for only 1 purpose, to rob Americans of true wealth through the systematic manipulation of interest rates and inflation.

Washington is waiting for people like me to die, so they can dupe a new generation of immigrants who don't know any better. Nothing is free, in the end someone always pays:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j282JKnmeVo

“It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and money system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning.”
-Henry Ford

“I am afraid the ordinary citizen will not like to be told that the banks can and do create money. And they who control the credit of the nation direct the policy of Governments and hold in the hollow of their hand the destiny of the people.”
Reginald McKenna, as Chairman of the Midland Bank, addressing stockholders in 1924.

Sigh. How would you fix our world then?
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Old 03-11-2016, 01:15 PM
 
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Sigh. How would you fix our world then?[/quote]

Cannot be done in the Middle East, even Henry Kissinger(who was very good at his job)made little progress. Their disputes with each other literally go back to Biblical times, and center around religion and land based around religion.

It could be done in Mexico, fixing their corrupt government run by cartels would end the border wars and help millions of poor civilians. It would also stem the illegals from Central America, as well as the flow of illegal drugs.

Vote for me.
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