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Correct that Trump said that BUT Kasich and Cruz would have fired Lewandowski immediately...
all 3 said that they'd have fired lewandowski immediately, the only variable was that trump said fields would have had to have been thrown to the ground.
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Don't try to spin the facts!
i'm not, i made sure to link to an article on trump's statements on the matter for anyone that wanted to see them in full context.
I thought it should at least meet the standard of your the statement to which I replied.
In fact, it exceeded that standard.
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Originally Posted by wrecking ball
it wasn't a "false complaint". the state attorney directly said that the charge was correct but that a conviction was unlikely against a defense of lewandowski believing he was protecting trump.
A charge is only correct if a conviction is likely.
Sorry to disappoint you.
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The girl that cries wolf over and over once again strikes out. It's over. Run along.
Indeed.
Nothing to see here accept anti-Trumps having a circle jerk.
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If this had happened on a college campus she would have claimed she was raped and been in the Rolling Stone.
LOL
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are you intentionally ignoring the statement from the state attorney?
"There is "no reasonable doubt" Corey Lewandowski grabbed Michelle Fields' arm against her will..."
The state attorney is full of it.
If there were no reasonable doubt that an assault and battery had taken place that would likely result in a conviction, then Lewandowski would have been charged.
He was not charged.
And what some stupid attorney says -- on either side -- is not determinative.
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i'm no fan of michelle fields ( and i believe she lied and/or exaggerated parts of her original statement ) but her claim that lewandowski grabbed and yanked her by the arm is absolutely correct.
There is no evidence of that in the video.
It's her word against Lewandowski's.
She's a neurotic nutcase and hysteric.
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Originally Posted by wrecking ball
all 3 said that they'd have fired lewandowski immediately, the only variable was that trump said fields would have had to have been thrown to the ground.
"Fields suggested that Palm Beach County District Attorney Dave Aronberg’s decision not to prosecute Lewandowski after police charged and arrested him was unethical and motivated by personal concerns.This is because Aronberg and his wife Lynn, a former Miami Dolphins cheerleader who owns a public relations firm, have been frequent visitors to Trump’s private club, Mar-a-Lago, and that Lynn Aronberg has posted numerous photos of herself posing with Donald and Melania Trump on her Facebook page and company web site."
fields also hints at a defamation lawsuit:
“I don’t think this should have such a huge story,” Fields said, adding that it wouldn’t have been, and probably remained private, if only Lewandowski had offered her an apology. “This wouldn’t have been such a huge story. But Corey lied. Donald Trump lied. They defamed me, and went on this huge smear campaign against me."
for the record:
* i agree with the original charge against lewandowski.
* i agree with the state attorney's decision not to take this to trial based on the information provided by the secret service agents.
* i believe that fields intentionally left the area she was told to be in and she exaggerated and/or lied on a couple of points on her original statement ( the breitbart article ).
* i believe that fields has a good chance of winning a defamation lawsuit against lewandowski ( and possibly the trump campaign ).
* i do not believe that fields could win a defamation lawsuit against trump as an individual
Last edited by wrecking ball; 04-17-2016 at 02:08 PM..
"Fields suggested that Palm Beach County District Attorney Dave Aronberg’s decision not to prosecute Lewandowski after police charged and arrested him was unethical and motivated by personal concerns.This is because Aronberg and his wife Lynn, a former Miami Dolphins cheerleader who owns a public relations firm, have been frequent visitors to Trump’s private club, Mar-a-Lago, and that Lynn Aronberg has posted numerous photos of herself posing with Donald and Melania Trump on her Facebook page and company web site."
fields also hints at a defamation lawsuit:
“I don’t think this should have such a huge story,” Fields said, adding that it wouldn’t have been, and probably remained private, if only Lewandowski had offered her an apology. “This wouldn’t have been such a huge story. But Corey lied. Donald Trump lied. They defamed me, and went on this huge smear campaign against me."
for the record:
* i agree with the original charge against lewandowski.
* i agree with the state attorney's decision not to take this to trial based on the information provided by the secret service agents.
* i believe that fields intentionally left the area she was told to be in and she exaggerated and/or lied on a couple of points on her original statement ( the breitbart article ).
* i believe that fields has a good chance of winning a defamation lawsuit against lewandowski ( and possibly the trump campaign ).
* i do not believe that fields could win a defamation lawsuit against trump as an individual
I don't agree with that, more importantly, legal experts don't agree with you.
Remember that I told you a week, or two before the DA made the decided not to prosecute Lewandowski that there was no case because he was acting in defense of Trump.
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Here is our exchange earlier in this thread.
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Some are saying under Florida law, he could be justified in his action. We'll see how it plays out. I bet the charge will be dismissed.
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it's going to be difficult for lewandowski to prove his actions were in self-defense ( or in defense of trump ) when two secret service agents were right there.
my bet is still on lewandowski making some kind of plea deal after the attention has subsided.
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Florida law allows citizens to assist law enforcement, including putting their hands on people without their consent.
We could see a plea deal, but I bet the charge is quietly dismissed.
I don't agree with that, more importantly, legal experts don't agree with you.
can you link to any legal expert commenting on a defamation case between fields and lewandowski?
i'll gladly admit now that i was wrong in my prediction about the criminal misdemeanor charge. i did not expect the secret service to say that a campaign manager had the authority to step into security matters. but that's what the state attorney implied that the affidavit said. live and learn. i'd be curious to read the entire affidavit from the secret service agents.
so now fields is absolutely dead in the water when it comes to any civil action pertaining directly to lewandowski grabbing her but i do think she has a case for slander and defamation starting with lewandowski's tweet on march 10 claiming that fields was "delusional" and that he never touched her.
can you link to any legal expert commenting on a defamation case between fields and lewandowski?
i'll gladly admit now that i was wrong in my prediction about the criminal misdemeanor charge. i did not expect the secret service to say that a campaign manager had the authority to step into security matters. but that's what the state attorney implied that the affidavit said. live and learn. i'd be curious to read the entire affidavit from the secret service agents.
so now fields is absolutely dead in the water when it comes to any civil action pertaining directly to lewandowski grabbing her but i do think she has a case for slander and defamation starting with lewandowski's tweet on march 10 claiming that fields was "delusional" and that he never touched her.
we shall see.
I read several legal experts opinions on this, truthfully, I didn't save any of the links because this non-story is dead, as it should be. However, I do remember Napolitano commenting on it if you want to do a search.
The opinions were basically that there is no real injury (physical, or otherwise) here, so there is no case.
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Run along.
