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You can bet that he will do his best to change that and his followers will have no problem if he does.
when Trump allows his DOJ to falsify warrants and judge shop to spy on journalists we see what a facist regime looks like.
When the doj lies about gun give away to mexican drug dealers, denies knowledge at first, and the prez invokes special porivlege to block the investigation
when a prez candidate lies her butt off, commits crimes which are listed and then isn't prosecuted we have a facist regime
remember when we were told to report anyone who did not support obamacare to whitehouse.gov?
remember when candidate obama's campaign said they would sue anyone who told lies about obama...that was an oops, and soon stopped.
media was controlled, turned into a propaganda machine...ask one question and the answer would take up the entire presser.
When the prez lies about a video and the media backs him just to help his election, we have experienced a facist regime
When the IRS supresses the conservative vote and no consequences we are in a facist regime
when the prez hands billions of dollars to the primary terrorist nation to ensure fires are set across the globe, we are a corrupt banana republic headed by a treasonous prezident.
oppose the prez and be labeled a racist. remember when that group of media slugs had their emails exposed to reveal a plot to charge racism whenever anyone opposed obama's position. Careers destroyed by the media.
when the prez and leading dems support a terrorist group that encourages the murder of cops, BLM, we are under a facist regime.
8 years of facism trump can never match even if he tried
(in general use) .extreme right-wing, authoritarian, or intolerant views or practice
sorry but...fascism is left wing
you seem to lack the knowledge of the fact that the book definition from 100 years ago has evolved.
that just because something is right of another doesn't make it right wing....democrats are to the right of the farther to the left liberals...does that mean democrats are rightwing??
fascism aka American liberalism is most certainly left wing
the fact is the progressive movement started in the late 1880's from it spawn modern liberalism, Marxism, communism, socialism, nazi-ism, and fascism. everyone of those ism's is left of center
fascism which is what was in 1930's Italy AND Germany is socialism lite. modern AMERICAN liberalism is a spin off of socialism/Nazi-ism/ and fascism.... our American liberals are not the liberals of "classic liberalism" which in today's America would be libertarianism, our modern American liberals spew the same rhetoric as the fascists and Nazi's and socialists of 1930's Europe.
Mussolini was a Marxist, who developed his brand of marxism/socialism... he called it fascism..
As an ardent admirer of Marx, Benito Mussolini called his version of Marxist socialism "Fascism". Instead of nationalization--government ownership--of private business, Mussolini advocated government control of business via complete bureaucratic regulation.
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""Fascism is a system in which the government leaves nominal ownership of the means of production in the hands of private individuals but exercises control by means of regulatory legislation and reaps most of the profit by means of heavy taxation. In effect, fascism is simply a more subtle form of government ownership than is socialism."" Mussolini
hmm high taxes...super control (authoritarian) by regulations...sounds like the American liberals to anyone with common sense
Hitler brought his version of fascism to Germany
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We are socialists, we are enemies of today's capitalistic economic system for the exploitation of the economically weak, with its unfair salaries, with its unseemly evaluation of a human being according to wealth and property instead of responsibility and performance, and we are all determined to destroy this system under all conditions." --Adolf Hitler
Sorry , that you cant admit, that modern liberals are the same as the socialists and fascists. it sounds like your education was wasted with doctrine to distance the mind set of modern progressives not wanting to acknowledge where their ideology has its roots.
lets look at the gun issue that liberals push
so the idea of the fascist liberals it to BAN, ""all assault-style rifles, handguns, and any gun with a capacity of over five"" and ""ammunition is not covered under 2A. It could be banned completely in private hands""
why do the fascist liberals want to do like the fascist Nazi's and the Stalinists' of the USSR and take guns away???
why are the fascist liberal so stern on having the totalitarian government like they always push for
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"""This year will go down in history. For the first time, a civilised nation has full gun registration! Our streets will be safer, our police more efficient, and the world will follow our lead into the future!""" A. Hitler
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""""In relation to the political decontamination of our public life, the government will embark upon a systematic campaign to restore the nation’s moral and material health. The whole educational system, theater, film, literature, the press and broadcasting – all these will be used as a means to this end."""" A. Hitler
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"The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to allow the subordinate people to possess arms. History shows that all conquerors who have allowed their subordinate people to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by so doing. Indeed, I would go so far as to say that the supply of arms to the underdogs is a sine qua non for the overthrow of any sovereignty. So let's not have any native militia or native police. German troops alone will bear the sole responsibility for the maintenance of law and order throughout the occupied Russian territories, and a system of military strong-points must be evolved to cover the entire occupied country." --Adolf Hitler, dinner talk on April 11, 1942, quoted in Hitler's Table Talk 1941-44: His Private Conversations
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"Gun registration is not enough. Waiting periods are only a step. Registration is only a step. The prohibition of private firearms is the goal." Janet Reno
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"A system of licensing and registration is the perfect device
to deny gun ownership to the people." Vladimir Ilyich Lenin
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"Our task of creating a socialist America can only succeed
when those who would resist us have been totally disarmed." Sarah Brady
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"There is no reason for anyone in this country -- anyone except a police officer or military person -- to buy, to own, to have, to use a handgun. The only way to control handgun use in this country is to prohibit the guns." Bill Clinton
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"We're bending the law as far as we can
to ban an entirely new class of guns." Rahm Emmanuel
the anti-gun people (and yes many are liberals) never can figure out that they are hurting the law abiding citizens, because crooks/criminals/scum dont care about the laws or restrictions on getting a gun
Communist Rules for Revolution:
1. Corrupt the young; get them away from religion. Get them interested in sex. Make them superficial; destroy their ruggedness.
2. By specious argument cause the breakdown of old moral virtues; honesty, sobriety, continence, faith in the pledged word, ruggedness.
3. Encourage civil disorders and foster a lenient and soft attitude on the part of government toward such disorders.
4. Divide the people into hostile groups by constantly harping on controversial matters of no importance.
5. Get people's minds off their government by focusing their attention on athletics, sexy books, plays, and other trivialities.
6. Get control of all means of publicity.
7. Destroy the people's faith in their natural leaders by holding the latter up to contempt, ridicule and obloquy (disgrace). 8. Cause the registration of all firearms on some pretext, with a view to confiscation and leaving the population helpless.
yep liberals (fascists) and their goal to disarm the people
Fascism is a system of government in which the state control everything. It is nominally capitalist, but the state has no limitations on what it can influence as far as industry goes. Elections are abolished, and free speech is limited to only those who support the narrative of the state. Violation is criminal offense, often punishable by death. What's more, it has a populist flare, often portraying the illusion of the masses supporting their fascist leader.
Is Trump a fascist?
No.
Fascism, as an ideology, is essentially dead. Same with communists. Bar a few radical groups here and there, the totalitarian regimes of the 20th century are a memory now.
With that said, Trump could be an instigator of some form of totalitarianism, which is why so many are making the parallel. He tends to outright reject all opposition, he's unwilling to admit to error, and his supporters often ask people to respect, honor, or support the president as a symbol of patriotism (as in, sacrifice you agency and individual viewpoint to support the president). These are all very totalitarian things. Trump is, without a doubt, a demagogue, who is the perfect totalitarian leader.
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noun 1. a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.
Under those terms he is NOT.....that definition matches more the extreme left in this county and the PC police.
Apparently a large percentage of the people voting in this pole don't have a clue what a Fascist is. Hugo Chavez is probably the closest most Fascist like leader in recent history. Erdogan looks to be heading in that direction. A Dictator taking over the government, Taking over and Nationalizing companies, forcibly suppressing opposition, doesn't describe Trump. If anything the Media and Democrats are having their way with him.
he is a wanna-be fascist, but the US Constitution doesn't let the POTUS have all the powers, fortunately for us.
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He'd love to be one but he's realizing the government is setup in a way to prevent it from eroding into that.
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Apparently a large percentage of the people voting in this pole don't have a clue what a Fascist is. Hugo Chavez is probably the closest most Fascist like leader in recent history. Erdogan looks to be heading in that direction. A Dictator taking over the government, Taking over and Nationalizing companies, forcibly suppressing opposition, doesn't describe Trump. If anything the Media and Democrats are having their way with him.
We all should know Turkey is an autocratic country.
Trump would love to wield more power then he actually does. Not necessarily out of malicious intent, more likely lack of knowledge on how the Executive Branch operates with the other two.
It is likely he'd love to be able to put a sock in the anti-Trump media, even though he should drop his ego and just ignore it.
His presidency is just a rolling train wreck. Dude can't even keep his house in order. When someone is desperate for positive attention, they'll do anything. He's used to being able to strong arm people, he's realizing that doesn't work so well in DC.
He's heavy into the Reich Wing, I mean right wing, side of politics. Damn, they might as well rename it that. Lots of giddiness and fascist wet dreams going on these days. They're ecstatic. Herr Trump has a sweet ring to it to guys like David Duke. It's the best thing since the creation of the noose.
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Dictionary says:
noun 1. a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.
Under those terms he is NOT.....that definition matches more the extreme left in this county and the PC police.
How can Trump be a fascist, his policies seem to be just the opposite of fascism. He want companies to be run by companies instead of the government, he wants to get government out of your pocket. I can think of another POTUS that was more of a fascist then Trump.
He's heavy into the Reich Wing, I mean right wing, side of politics. Damn, they might as well rename it that. Lots of giddiness and fascist wet dreams going on these days. They're ecstatic. Herr Trump has a sweet ring to it to guys like David Duke. It's the best thing since the creation of the noose.
Somebody is in the need of a good dose of Third Reich history, the Reich, as you call it, was as far away from right wing politics as you can get. In fact, a lot of Hitlers actions were taken from our Democrats, like Jackson, for example. It was Jackson's actions against the American Indians that inspired Hitlers actions in Europe, this is what Hitler called "lebensraum", Hitler plan to forcibly seize land and enslave the native inhabitants, it was the genocide of the Native American people that gave Hitler the idea to exterminate the Jews and others that didn't fit his ideals.
Fascism, American style (with a smiley-face) is alive and well in a country that seeks to mandate federal healthcare, unbridled "statism" of the social left, with a nanny-state government is the closest thing we Americans have seen of true fascism, and that realization is chilling.
"Anyone who would give up freedom for security deserves neither," said Benjamin Franklin, and he must have been talking about modern liberalism, which seeks to make the state an object of religious worship, the individual an endangered species, and self-reliance a quaint antiquity.
“What is today called liberalism stands, domestically, on three legs: support for the welfare state, abortion, and identity politics. Obviously, this is a crude formation”
Abortion and the welfare state are the primary goals of the left? The right doesn’t have identity politics? That seems like the typical diatribe of the right wing. We have a lot more significant issues facing us that impact our lives everyday. Maybe someday we’ll stop with name calling and rousing the base and get together to figure out how to solve our country’s problems.
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