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Old 03-14-2016, 09:59 AM
 
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Trump gets praise for "telling it like it is" but he lies the most out of anyone.
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Old 03-14-2016, 10:01 AM
 
Location: In an indoor space
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I agree with the bolded. People are not paying attention. People don't care about the message behinds words, they hear "Oh, captured pows are not heros" and get all bent out of shape.
The art of the deal - if some people read it (as I read some) they will understand that what has so far transpired. Trump pretty much knows what he's doing imo even though many either don't understand, have criticized or turn his words for their own agendas that twists his meanings.

The real POW's are the ones you have mentioned that many of which can't get deserved benefits - thanks Obama and its administration.
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Old 03-14-2016, 10:07 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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The art of the deal - if some people read it (as I read some) they will understand that what has so far transpired. Trump pretty much knows what he's doing imo even though many either don't understand, have criticized or turn his words for their own agendas that twists his meanings.

The real POW's are the ones you have mentioned that many of which can't get deserved benefits - thanks Obama and its administration.
Thank you. That is why people are angry. If Republicans don't pay attention, they deserve to have their party destroyed too.
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Old 03-14-2016, 10:10 AM
 
Location: Kentucky Bluegrass
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Thank you. That is why people are angry. If Republicans don't pay attention, they deserve to have their party destroyed too.

Yup!!!


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Old 03-14-2016, 10:12 AM
 
Location: Somewhere
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I agree with the bolded. People are not paying attention. People don't care about the message behinds words, they hear "Oh, captured pows are not heros" and get all bent out of shape.
No, you want to hear what you want to. Trump followers are so brainwashed that the only way they can defend Trump is by saying Trump words need "Interpretation". You need to "read between the lines" because you(General you) cannot admit his words are unacceptable.

If Trump is not eloquent enough to express his words in a way people understand his message, then he shouldn't run for president. Of course many of us see through him and know that's not the case. He knows what he is saying, he is pandering to the Jerry Springer crowd by calling McCain a loser and in the process he insults POWs because he doesn't give a **** about anyone but himself. He judges others when he is nothing more than a cowardly draft dodger.

Examples of excuses Trump followers come up to defend their idol:
"That's not what Trump meant"
"Trump didn't hear the kkk part of the question so he was not answering the right question"
"When Trump sayid H1b1 visas he really meant student visas"

So in order to understand what Trump really means we need the "Trump dictionary". A dictionary full of lame excuses to cover the fact Trump is an immoral person who respects no one but himself

This is what he said, what part of "I like people who weren't captured" needs interpretation?

“He’s not a war hero,” said Trump. “He was a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured.”

Read more: Trump attacks McCain: 'I like people who weren't captured' - POLITICO

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Old 03-14-2016, 10:12 AM
 
Location: Denver, Colorado U.S.A.
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The art of the deal - if some people read it (as I read some) they will understand that what has so far transpired. Trump pretty much knows what he's doing imo even though many either don't understand, have criticized or turn his words for their own agendas that twists his meanings.

The real POW's are the ones you have mentioned that many of which can't get deserved benefits - thanks Obama and its administration.
That's what scares me. That he actually knows what he's doing. But what's his goal? I see through him, and he doesn't give a rat's @ss about average Americans. Is he just power hungry? He surely knows the presidency isn't a dictatorship with a magic wand. He can't just randomly start wars and start rounding up millions of people. And you'd think he understands that both the Republicans and Democrats hate him and would prevent him from doing much of anything. But maybe I'm missing something. Maybe he has the money to buy the power he desires? The unknowns about this man are scary.
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Old 03-14-2016, 10:20 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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No, you want to hear what you want to. Trump followers are so brainwashed that the only way they can defend Trump is by saying Trump words need "Interpretation". You need to "read between the lines" because you(General you) cannot admit his words are unacceptable.

Examples:
"That's not what Trump meant"
"Trump didn't hear the kkk part of the question so he was not answering the right question"
"When Trump sayid H1b1 visas he really meant student visas"

So in order to understand what Trump really means we need the "Trump dictionary". A dictionary full of lame excuses to cover the fact Trump is an immoral person who respects no one but himself

This is what he said, what part of "I like people who weren't captured" needs interpretation?

“He’s not a war hero,” said Trump. “He was a war hero because he was captured. I like people who weren’t captured.”

Read more: Trump attacks McCain: 'I like people who weren't captured' - POLITICO
No, I know what I care about. Didn't I say "Trump made an idiotic statement? " Didn't I just say that?



I can care less about McCain's hero status.
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Old 03-14-2016, 10:27 AM
 
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No, you want to hear what you want to. Trump followers are so brainwashed that the only way they can defend Trump is by saying Trump words need "Interpretation".
Aren't you a Hillary supporter? I lying concerns you, then I'm thinking that brainwashed is being applied incorrectly here.
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Old 03-14-2016, 10:29 AM
 
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Thank you. That is why people are angry. If Republicans don't pay attention, they deserve to have their party destroyed too.
It's already started and there is no reversing it. It will be very much different in the future if it survives.
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Old 03-14-2016, 10:30 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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That's what scares me. That he actually knows what he's doing. But what's his goal? I see through him, and he doesn't give a rat's @ss about average Americans. Is he just power hungry? He surely knows the presidency isn't a dictatorship with a magic wand. He can't just randomly start wars and start rounding up millions of people. And you'd think he understands that both the Republicans and Democrats hate him and would prevent him from doing much of anything. But maybe I'm missing something. Maybe he has the money to buy the power he desires? The unknowns about this man are scary.
well, you may have a legitimate concern. The unpredictable Trump scares me. But, the predictable Hillary Clinton, Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz scare me also.

I don't know whom I would end up voting for in the end, most likely, third party.

It is pretty obvious that, The conservative moment has to wrestle with a dilemma: Is Trump a legitimate champion of the Right or a phony usurper of the tradition? This is something to be figured out. But if it is Hillary vs Trump, I would want to try somebody new. I think Trump is a good deal maker.
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