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As much as I dislike Trump, I'm going to agree with you on the perception versus reality. A lot of hearsay going around. I don't believe most Trump supporters are interested in wanton violence against strangers and I'd say the majority of people don't participate or even want to. Nonetheless his rhetoric and dismissive attitude about what has been confirmed to to happen at his rallies disturbs me.
Perception is reality.
It doesn't matter what someone really believes or does...just what the perception is.
If Trump's opponents are able to make people perceive that Trump is a racist or Hitler 2.0 it doesn't matter what Trump's true beliefs , words or actions are...that's what people will believe.
The establishment has enacted Mitt Romney to be the messenger :
It's pretty sad how Romney went from someone that could be respected...to someone that has devolved to going on twitter rants against Donald Trump
Yeah, those Bernie supporters showed zero class when they disrupted an event held by Trump. They can protest...outside. Calmly. They can even go inside and wear a shirt or hold a sign, but disruption shows no class at all.
Everyone keeps talking about other rallies not having any protests...because Trump supporters don't go to those rallies and act like imbeciles. Glad you all have taken notice of that.
BUT then again protestors haven't protested Cruz/Rubio/Kasich/ much less any of the previous 13 candidates....Could it be the "Hate Speech" Trump screams in every Rally, Interview?????
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Originally Posted by Staysean23
Even the ones who protested inside in silence still got put out and pushed and shoved by Trump supporters this is well before the violence started taking place.
and If anyone believes this young man is a one off...then I got a Bride to sell you!!
Read This Man’s Terrifying Account of Standing Silently at a Trump Rally
Read This Man's Terrifying Account of Standing Silently at a Trump Rally
According to Troup, the crowd was mostly white, with a small number of people of color scattered throughout the audience. A big part of the billionaire Republican front-runner’s message that night was based on fear:
Snippet~~ “He told Ohioans that only oil was propping up their state and that their economy was in serious trouble. He said this over and over again,” Troup wrote. “He also told the crowd that ISIS was out to kill them. That ISIS was putting 50 people at a time in cages and drowning them in the ocean. And that we had to kill them first.”
Then, Troup noted that the rally took a noticeably darker turn:
“Cheers for water boarding. Cheers for torture. Calls to cut off their heads… They loved everything that was being said. The calls for the wall. The calls to blow up oil fields. The calls to torture and kill people.”
The rally was intermittently disrupted by protesters. Troup noted how, after being spoon-fed fear and hate by Trump, the audience treated protesters.
“Every time a protestor was kicked out, they were yells to get them out of here, even to KILL THEM!!!” Troup said. “Really? Kill them? For protesting?”
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Originally Posted by Three Wolves In Snow
Is there video of this? Don't just say, "there was a thread on it", if there was, because I've been working a lot the last couple of days and have not seen every thread.
Here one~~ A Muslim women escorted out (Reason: Hamid, who sat directly behind Trump, stood in silent protest when he suggested that Syrian refugees had ties to ISIS)
Is there video of this? Don't just say, "there was a thread on it", if there was, because I've been working a lot the last couple of days and have not seen every thread.
Yes there is. It was the beginning of this whole mess. The crowd is a nasty crowd of people these are just 2 examples
Perception is reality.
It doesn't matter what someone really believes or does...just what the perception is.
If Trump's opponents are able to make people perceive that Trump is a racist or Hitler 2.0 it doesn't matter what Trump's true beliefs , words or actions are...that's what people will believe.
The establishment has enacted Mitt Romney to be the messenger :
It's pretty sad how Romney went from someone that could be respected...to someone that has devolved to going on twitter rants against Donald Trump
I mean it seems like all his tweets these days are negative ones trashing Trump..
Nobody else find this bizarre?
Why can't he just kick back at one of his several mansions and go up and down in the car elevator.
Frankly I'm tired of hearing these comparisons to Hitler, or Stalin etc. His policies are generally very vague, at least they were when I read them on his website a few months back, maybe they cleaned it up. I do think it's odd he is running as a republican, but really does look more to me like a democrat in many ways. I do think he's capitalizing on people's prejudices to a degree no recent mainstream politician has tried to do.
Which makes sense because he's not a politician, and doesn't really have anything to lose if he doesn't become President, he'll just go back to being an egotistical billionaire that gets flustered when the Chinese laugh at what great deals they're getting.
BUT then again protestors haven't protested Cruz/Rubio/Kasich/ much less any of the previous 13 candidates....Could it be the "Hate Speech" Trump screams in every Rally, Interview?????
and If anyone believes this young man is a one off...then I got a Bride to sell you!!
Read This Man’s Terrifying Account of Standing Silently at a Trump Rally
Read This Man's Terrifying Account of Standing Silently at a Trump Rally
According to Troup, the crowd was mostly white, with a small number of people of color scattered throughout the audience. A big part of the billionaire Republican front-runner’s message that night was based on fear:
Snippet~~ “He told Ohioans that only oil was propping up their state and that their economy was in serious trouble. He said this over and over again,” Troup wrote. “He also told the crowd that ISIS was out to kill them. That ISIS was putting 50 people at a time in cages and drowning them in the ocean. And that we had to kill them first.”
Then, Troup noted that the rally took a noticeably darker turn:
“Cheers for water boarding. Cheers for torture. Calls to cut off their heads… They loved everything that was being said. The calls for the wall. The calls to blow up oil fields. The calls to torture and kill people.”
The rally was intermittently disrupted by protesters. Troup noted how, after being spoon-fed fear and hate by Trump, the audience treated protesters.
“Every time a protestor was kicked out, they were yells to get them out of here, even to KILL THEM!!!” Troup said. “Really? Kill them? For protesting?”
Here one~~ A Muslim women escorted out (Reason: Hamid, who sat directly behind Trump, stood in silent protest when he suggested that Syrian refugees had ties to ISIS)
The difference is he is talking to his supporters who have a problem on one of his issues. Trump isn't Having a problem with his supporters. He's having a problem with Burnie's and Hillary's supporters.
Nice try though you might fool a fool with the out of context content.
Oh it wasn't a try it was a success he could have easily thrown her out. Just as well he could have allowed some of the peaceful protestors to remain in his rallies. It's just how you handle situations regardless of the situation. Class and dignity goes a long way.
Oh it wasn't a try it was a success he could have easily thrown her out. Just as well he could have allowed some of the peaceful protestors to remain in his rallies. It's just how you handle situations regardless of the situation. Class and dignity goes a long way.
Your right about that. I'll know it when I see. Your posting of a photo of a child is evidence you don't.
[quote=phma;43358006 Trump isn't Having a problem with his supporters.[/quote]
I don't understand that. Most people have a things or two about the candidate that they don't like, and trump's followers don't seem to have any issues with anything about him. It is just very weird. All the other candidates, people will say, I like him except for this thing, or I just couldn't support him because of this thing. trump supporters never say anything like that, ever!
Where trump is having trouble is the 65% or so of republicans who will never support him. Not to mention those people who aren't republicans and wouldn't vote for him no matter what.
I don't understand that. Most people have a things or two about the candidate that they don't like, and trump's followers don't seem to have any issues with anything about him. It is just very weird. All the other candidates, people will say, I like him except for this thing, or I just couldn't support him because of this thing. trump supporters never say anything like that, ever!
Where trump is having trouble is the 65% or so of republicans who will never support him. Not to mention those people who aren't republicans and wouldn't vote for him no matter what.
Not sure if that's true. I've heard a lot of people that intend to vote for Trump mention they don't like certain things about it.
I think that is less so of the other candidates versus Trump.
Also I believe things will change. At the beginning of this campaign everyone wrote off Trump and didn't take him seriously. People were betting on Jeb Bush over Trump. Now Jeb isn't even in the game.
The polls aren't always correct. Look how far behind Sanders was in Michigan just days before the vote.
Maybeeee 65% of Republicans say they won't support him now...but talk is cheap.
What you are seeing is more and more people are supporting Trump. If people weren't voting for him, he wouldn't be the frontrunner.
I'm sure there are TONS of people that aren't publicly supporting him because it's not politically correct to say you support Trump..but they are voting for him privately.
your right about that. I'll know it when i see. Your posting of a photo of a child is evidence you don't.
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BUT then again protestors haven't protested Cruz/Rubio/Kasich/ much less any of the previous 13 candidates....Could it be the "Hate Speech" Trump screams in every Rally, Interview?????
