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Old 03-16-2016, 12:59 AM
 
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Not what Im saying. What Im saying is that you can't lump Cruz in with Trump as being a terrible general election candidate when Cruz beats Hillary in nearly every head to head poll. Thats actually very respectable for a far right, conservative candidate.



you are clueless.....The media and the democrats haven't targeted Cruz because they know he won't win the nomination and if a miracle happens and Cruz wins the nomination the Democrats know he will be easy to beat in the general because Cruz is a RED STATE candidate......that's why he did lousy in Ohio, Florida and Michigan.


This is how sad Cruz is, Trump had a bad week of bad press and the GOP establishment and the Super Pacs have spent over 45 million dollars in negative t.v. ads trying to destroy Trump.....while Cruz got a free ride.


Guess how many states Cruz won tonight? ZERO!


Imagine if Cruz gets the heat Trump gets all the time, he would have quit the race by now.

Cruz is no general election candidate.....even Trump taking all the bad press and negative super pac ads and the establishment against him, Cruz couldn't win a state tonight......that says it all.
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Old 03-16-2016, 01:07 AM
 
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We are talking about a general election, not a GOP primary and in nearly every general election poll, Cruz beats Hillary while Trump gets his ass handed to him. You are delusional if you think Trump is going to get 30% of the minority vote to win a general election LOL


you keep repeating the same lies.........Cruz can' beat Trump in the GOP primary but he is going to bring democrats and independents to the GOP to beat Hillary in the general???? LMAO!!!


How will Cruz get 30% of the Latino Vote when he is more hardcore than Trump on deportation?....because his name is Rafael Cruz?....yeah that work so well in Florida where Trump beat Cruz by 673,000 votes, that's over half a million votes in a state full of latinos.

Even Miami-Dade County which are full of Cuban-Americans, Trump beat Cruz by 13%.....even Cubans don't like Rafael Cruz.

I keep trying to educate you.....generic general election polls during a primary is not accurate and is a mirage. I gave many examples in history.

in 1988: Dukakis was beating Bush SR. by over 25% in the spring during the primary
in 1980: Carter was beating Reagan by 30% during the primary cycle.
in 1992: Bush SR. was beating Bill Clinton by 25% during the primary cycle.
in 2008: Mccain was beating Obama by 8% average during the primary cycle.

ALL MIRAGES!!! all of them lost......so don't come here telling us Cruz has the best shot of beating Hillary in the general when Rafael Cruz hasn't won a BATTLEGROUND state in the general in any of the primaries.


If you can't win your divisional playoff game you are not going to win the S.B.

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Old 03-16-2016, 01:12 AM
 
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you keep repeating the same lies.........Cruz can' beat Trump in the GOP primary but he is going to bring democrats and independents to the GOP to beat Hillary in the general???? LMAO!!!


How will Cruz get 30% of the Latino Vote when he is more hardcore than Trump on deportation?....because his name is Rafael Cruz?....yeah that work so well in Florida where Trump beat Cruz by 673,000 votes, that's over half a million votes in a state full of latinos.

Even Miami-Dade County which are full of Cuban-Americans, Trump beat Cruz by 13%.....even Cubans don't like Rafael Cruz.

I keep trying to educate you.....generic general election polls during a primary is not accurate and is a mirage. I gave many examples in history.


If you can't win your divisional playoff game you are not going to win the S.B.
...and you believe TRUMP is going to get 30% of the minority vote needed to win a general election?! LOL!! Cruz has a much better chance of that because he's not a racist xenophobe who retweets white supremacists, makes at least one bigoted racist comment weekly and is backed by the KKK. Just stop, Trump has ZERO chance in a general. Cruz at least has a shot.
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Old 03-16-2016, 07:36 AM
 
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The Donald needs to be afraid. Very afraid.

With the vote no longer split between Rubio and Cruz, Cruz is going to start chipping away at Trump's lead. Neither is going to get to 1,237. Unless the Republican establishment crowd has a death wish for their party, they will limit their choices either Cruz or Trump as the nominee.

Of course the Trumplettes will cry and whine, as they have already started doing, apparently being baffled that anyone could expect the concept of a "majority" to be applied to leader of the Trump personality cult. But this is the way it has ALWAYS been, and for good reason.

If you do not have the support of a majority, then you are disrespecting the majority for the will of the minority. And that obviously makes no sense at all, except to a number of self-serving, math-challenged Donald Trump supporters, of course.
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Old 03-16-2016, 07:41 AM
 
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The Donald needs to be afraid. Very afraid.

With the vote no longer split between Rubio and Cruz, Cruz is going to start chipping away at Trump's lead. Neither is going to get to 1,237. Unless the Republican establishment crowd has a death wish for their party, they will limit their choices either Cruz or Trump as the nominee.

Of course the Trumplettes will cry and whine, as they have already started doing, apparently being baffled that anyone could expect the concept of a "majority" to be applied to leader of the Trump personality cult. But this is the way it has ALWAYS been, and for good reason.

If you do not have the support of a majority, then you are disrespecting the majority for the will of the minority. And that obviously makes no sense at all, except to a number of self-serving, math-challenged Donald Trump supporters, of course.
I don't think so. Nearly all of the states left are large and heavily in favor of Trump including New York and CA in the primary. Cruz is portrayed as a religious wacko and maybe rightly so. The vast majority of people in these states do not like religious wackos. They'd rather take their chances with Trump.
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Old 03-16-2016, 07:42 AM
 
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We are talking about a general election, not a GOP primary and in nearly every general election poll, Cruz beats Hillary while Trump gets his ass handed to him. You are delusional if you think Trump is going to get 30% of the minority vote to win a general election LOL
This is the same thing they said would happen when it came time to debate the other republican nominees.
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Old 03-16-2016, 07:44 AM
 
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...and you believe TRUMP is going to get 30% of the minority vote needed to win a general election?! LOL!! Cruz has a much better chance of that because he's not a racist xenophobe who retweets white supremacists, makes at least one bigoted racist comment weekly and is backed by the KKK. Just stop, Trump has ZERO chance in a general. Cruz at least has a shot.
Cruz has a far less chance than Trump. The vast majority of Americans will not vote for a religious wacko from the far right, and yes, that's how he will be portrayed.
He couldn't even put a dent in Florida which is a mixed bag with many Cubans. Why are you so delusional?
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Old 03-16-2016, 08:06 AM
 
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I don't think so. Nearly all of the states left are large and heavily in favor of Trump including New York and CA in the primary. Cruz is portrayed as a religious wacko and maybe rightly so. The vast majority of people in these states do not like religious wackos. They'd rather take their chances with Trump.
Cruz is portrayed as a religious "wacko" by anti-Christian bigots in the media, here on this board, and elsewhere, that is true.

I am not willing to believe that those states are filled with anti-Christian bigots, which is what would be required for things to be as you say. Over 70% of our country openly identifies as Christian and among Republicans - we are still in the Republican primary - the number is much higher. You presume that these people's anti-Christian bias will work in Trump's favor. Now that the vote is going to be more consolidated and we are pretty clearly down to a two-man race, with Trump as the alternative, I don't think so.

Also now with Rubio out, watch for Cruz to alter his campaign themes a bit. For example, last night at the end of Cruz's speech, I was very pleased to see he had changed his music to rock. No more country, which had caused me to cringe a bit when I had heard it at certain times earlier in the campaign. This is in my opinion a very positive move and one that I think you will see manifested in the tone of his presentation and in a variety of other ways going forward. Unless I am mistaken, it will be subtle but quite noticeable to those paying attention. Like the music, for example.

The primary schedule slows down tremendously over the next month. It is almost like a half-time interlude in this primary campaign. Utah and Arizona will be next Tuesday. Wisconsin will be on April 5, then New York April 19, which is 34 days from now. This will be a time when smart campaigns retool and recraft their strategies to fit the new dynamics of this race.

Halftime is when smart coaches make changes to their gameplan and focus on targeting their opponents specific weaknesses. If you think the Cruz campaign is going to remain static during this period, you are wildly mistaken. However the Trump campaign probably will. Trump will continue to hold rallies that feed his massive narcissistic tendencies, which appears to be his first priority at all times, and will just continue to flog the same exact methods and practices that have gotten him to this point.

Get ready for the second half. With the field pared down, there will be nowhere for the Donald to hide. It is going to be like a whole new ballgame.
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Old 03-16-2016, 08:11 AM
 
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Get ready for the second half. With the field pared down, there will be nowhere for the Donald to hide. It is going to be like a whole new ballgame.
Same thing can be said for Cruz too. He can no longer hide. IMO, he is at his ceiling. He's getting fundamentalist evangelicals and not much more than that.

The fact that he lost primaries in all 6 contests of "Swing State Tuesday" speaks to this. Here in NC, Cruz ran constant TV adverts. Trump did almost nothing in comparison except to hold a couple of rallies. Rubio and Kasiac didn't campaign in the state at all. Yet Cruz still lost.

This speaks for itself.
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Old 03-16-2016, 08:23 AM
 
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The Donald needs to be afraid. Very afraid.

With the vote no longer split between Rubio and Cruz, Cruz is going to start chipping away at Trump's lead. Neither is going to get to 1,237. Unless the Republican establishment crowd has a death wish for their party, they will limit their choices either Cruz or Trump as the nominee.

Of course the Trumplettes will cry and whine, as they have already started doing, apparently being baffled that anyone could expect the concept of a "majority" to be applied to leader of the Trump personality cult. But this is the way it has ALWAYS been, and for good reason.

If you do not have the support of a majority, then you are disrespecting the majority for the will of the minority. And that obviously makes no sense at all, except to a number of self-serving, math-challenged Donald Trump supporters, of course.
Sounds like what they said when Christie, Carson, Fiorina, Bush, etc. dropped out. That their votes would automatically go to other candidates besides Trump. Yet instead what we're seeing is Trump getting 40%+ margins now instead of those in the low 30%-high 20% range. Rubio dropping will likely have us seeing Trump win with over 50% in some states coming soon. The demographics just don't favor Cruz in most of the remaining states. Plus Cruz with his heavy theocratic rhetoric has little chance in the large states coming up.
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