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Old 03-16-2016, 12:33 PM
 
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Not gonna happen. Contested convention coming this summer! That will be the ultimate reality show

Trump risks falling short of delegate count for nomination | TheHill
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Old 03-16-2016, 12:36 PM
 
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Designed by our corrupted political system. Why do you think they had 17 candidates to begin with? To splinter the votes and make it virtually impossible for a popular candidate to get the delegates needed. Then they get to pick a candidate they want at the convention. Worked like a charm, didn't it?
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Old 03-16-2016, 12:38 PM
 
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Designed by our corrupted political system. Why do you think they had 17 candidates to begin with? To splinter the votes and make it virtually impossible for a popular candidate to get the delegates needed. Then they get to pick a candidate they want at the convention. Worked like a charm, didn't it?
You dont understand how a contested convention works I guess. They can't just pick whoever they want, at least not on the 1st ballot. Google how it works
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Old 03-16-2016, 12:41 PM
 
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You dont understand how a contested convention works I guess. They can't just pick whoever they want, at least not on the 1st ballot. Google how it works
Guess we'll wait and see what happens.
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Old 03-16-2016, 12:44 PM
 
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Designed by our corrupted political system. Why do you think they had 17 candidates to begin with? To splinter the votes and make it virtually impossible for a popular candidate to get the delegates needed. Then they get to pick a candidate they want at the convention. Worked like a charm, didn't it?
Sure. They knew that your man trump would get soooo popular that they would have to splinter the votes, so they set up 16 other people to run against him. It is all a ruse to allow them to put... wait, wasn't it Rubio that y'all said was the establishment candidate? Now, you're saying it was Kasich all along. Not that any of the actual voters matter, except for the trump followers. Like with so many other things about trump followers, only their votes matter.
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Old 03-16-2016, 12:53 PM
 
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Sure. They knew that your man trump would get soooo popular that they would have to splinter the votes, so they set up 16 other people to run against him. It is all a ruse to allow them to put... wait, wasn't it Rubio that y'all said was the establishment candidate? Now, you're saying it was Kasich all along. Not that any of the actual voters matter, except for the trump followers. Like with so many other things about trump followers, only their votes matter.
kasich was the number three man in line. it started with jeb bush, then went to rubio, and now kasich. and then there is romney as a dark horse back up, since i understand that he has filed papers needed to run for president this time around.

the ide early on was that trump would implode and drop out, but when that didnt happen, the republican establishment then tried to force trump out of a third party run by forcing him to sign an agreement to support the ultimate republican nominee. now that trump looks to be thr presumptive republican nominee, they are going to use the rules for the primaries to try and upend trump, and force a brokered convention at which point they can then nominate the person they want to run in the general election, and that might be kasich, it might be jeb bush, it might even be marco rubio.

but if a brokered convention happens, you can bet that it wont be either trump or cruz that gets the nomination.
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Old 03-16-2016, 12:55 PM
 
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kasich was the number three man in line. it started with jeb bush, then went to rubio, and now kasich. and then there is romney as a dark horse back up, since i understand that he has filed papers needed to run for president this time around.

the ide early on was that trump would implode and drop out, but when that didnt happen, the republican establishment then tried to force trump out of a third party run by forcing him to sign an agreement to support the ultimate republican nominee. now that trump looks to be thr presumptive republican nominee, they are going to use the rules for the primaries to try and upend trump, and force a brokered convention at which point they can then nominate the person they want to run in the general election, and that might be kasich, it might be jeb bush, it might even be marco rubio.

but if a brokered convention happens, you can bet that it wont be either trump or cruz that gets the nomination.
All depends how the delegates vote on the 1st ballot and what those 112 uncommitted delegates do. You know there are PLENTY of delegates in states Trump won that wont vote for him at the convention if they become unbound. If it gets to a 2nd ballot, all bets are off. Its going to be someone like Ryan or Romney most likely.
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Old 03-16-2016, 01:07 PM
 
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Here is a pretty good writeup from today on a contested convention.

Contested convention: 7 things you need to know - CNNPolitics.com
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Old 03-16-2016, 01:18 PM
 
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Not gonna happen. Contested convention coming this summer! That will be the ultimate reality show

Trump risks falling short of delegate count for nomination | TheHill
Interesting. Let's do the math on that. Presently, Trump has 661 delegates. Here's what's left:

American Samoa - March 22 - 9 delegates - Unbound
Arizona - March 22 - 58 delegates - Winner Take All
Utah - March 22 - 40 delegates Proportional
North Dakota - April 1 - 28 delegates Unbound
Wisconsin - April 5 - 42 delegates Primary Winner Take All
New York - April 19 - 95 delegates Proportional
Connecticut - April 26 - 28 delegates Proportional
Delaware - April 26 - 16 delegates Winner Take All
Maryland - April 26 - 38 delegates Winner Take All
Pennsylvania - April 26 - 71 delegates Winner Take All
Rhode Island - April 26 19 delegates Proportional
Indiana May 3 - 57 delegates Winner Take All
Nebraska - May 10 - 36 delegates Winner Take All
West Virginia - May 10 - 34 delegates Direct Election
Oregon - May 17 - 28 delegates Proportional
Washington - May 24 - 44 delegates Proportional
California - June 7 - 172 delegates Winner Take All
Montana - June 7 - 27 delegates Winner Take All
New Jersey - June 7 - 51 delegates Winner Take All
New Mexico - June 7 - 24 delegates Proportional
South Dakota - June 7 - 29 delegates Winner Take All

Winner take all states skew the numbers massively. That's why I've bolded them.

Okay, Cruz seems to do well in the low population western states, so I could easily see him taking South Dakota, Montana and Nebraska.

Presently, Trump looks to be a lock to win Arizona, California, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, Delaware, Maryland and New Jersey. In his home state of New York, he'll take 40 delegates minimum. That would add 545 delegates for Trump, for a grand total of 1206.

Of course that's completely leaving out delegates from all of the proportional (or similar) states. That's another 245 delegates. Trump is probably going to get way more than one third of them, but just for fun lets say he only gets 94. That would push his tally to 1300 delegates, which would be enough. But let's be realistic here. Of those 245 delegates, Trump will get 150 minimum. End tally: Trump gets 1356 delegates clearing the 1237 needed and he secures the nomination.

It's so funny to watch a bunch of Republicans whining and crying about Trump. Look, I don't want Trump either but it's too late people!!
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Old 03-16-2016, 01:21 PM
 
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He'll get even more than that.

Actually he'll steamroll cause Cruz has no hope in these states.
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