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Old 02-13-2008, 08:43 AM
 
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The key qualifier in this discussion:

"If current trends continue..."
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Old 02-13-2008, 10:09 AM
 
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It will lead to an Obama presidency and many more in the future. The United States is changing in such fundamental ways that the country will be a very different country in about only 30 years. We will be an overcrowded multi-racial polygot empire. I bet the Chinese can't wait to take advantage of our stupidity.

Look at the Asian countries: Japan, China, South Korea. They are all doing well, stable with very low crime rates and guess what, they are all homogeneous. We on the other hand are losing economic ground in every sphere.

Multiracial nations don't work. If you want to see the future of the United States read the news from South Africa.
That is why socialized healthcare no longer works in Europe. They had a homogenous population and now they don't. They have high crime, civil unrest, poverty, drug violence, lazy peope living off welfare, and muders of anyone who speaks against Sharia Law.

The truth is a multi-cultural society is doomed, as the Romans were doomed. There is no way the USA will go on as a world leader if the American culture is destroyed by a massive influx of immigrants (180 million estimated, maybe more) in less than 40 years.

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In 40 years, Christians could be persecuted for their faith, Sharia Law will try to weave it's ugly face in our constitution, and the US could be on the brink of some serious problems.
Multiculturalism is okay in one sense, but there are too many compromises involved to try and please everybody.
Look at Great Britain and all the mess that they're in now.
They are already trying to impose anti-Christian law in our government with "anti-Hate speech" laws. The UK is in the toilet now. Massive unemployement, the healthcare is awful, you are eithe rich or are struggling. The middle class in the UK has vanished. Welcome to Socialism mixed with multi-culturalism, friends.

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In 40 years, Christians will have the opportunity to obey the directives and teachings of our faith, such that we are not a threat to or threatened by anyone. These last few centuries, we've gotten away with conveniently abandoning many of our rather inconvenient faith principles, while conveniently covering those failures with our politics.

We fear a threat only because we have not been obedient to our faith.
Really? What directive of the faith talks about not being threatened by anyone? Have you REALLY looked at Biblical history to see how many Christians were massacred by the pagans?

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My fear of a hispanic majority is only that they will make it that no true americans (those of us whose families been here since 1500s) will be able to get good middle class jobs. If we want good lives we are all gonna hath to go to college to compete for the corporate/ white collar jobs because those will be the only ones with decent pay.
THe US workers ALREADY cannot compete with the aliens, who work long hours for much less pay. That is causing wages for US workers to collapse. Where I grew up in Central FL, you could get jobs that pay well and had health insurance. Now you have to scrape for jobs and almost threaten to call Immigration in order to get a job that pays more than $8 bucks an hour! Same is happening in Arizona and Cali. Just go there and check it out.

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What do you mean the opportunity? I'm sorry but I'd rather die serving Jesus Christ than submit to any type of Islamic law.
Christ wouldn't do that. In fact, he fought against the merchants in the Temple for this very reason.

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I mean just that. We have the opportunity to be complete Christians. And if you profess to serve Christ, then you already know that we as human beings will pick and choose which tenents of our faith to obey.

Our country was founded on selective adherence to Christian principles. Otherwise, we wouldn't be concerned about a higher number of Latino or Black Christians than White Christians. We wouldn't be worried about a new majority visiting revenge on the old majority.

We have an opportunity to change the way we've thought and behaved as Christians. Or we can continue to allow our politics to dictate who is and who isn't our enemy.
No, Humans do not pick what tenants of the faith to obey. That is why the Church has been damaged by these liberal beliefs. People in some "churches" are ok with gay marriage, open homosexualism, abortion, multiple marriages, etc. These are NOT Christian principles.

So your suggestion is: compromise the Christian faith so that we won't be hated? No, Christian should stand by their principles, despite that they may teach that you should not go and blow yourself up to get 70 virgins and that you should not practice homosexuality as it is against God's Laws. Changing the Christian faith to please worldly/pagan/atheists types won't work. That sounds like a sellout to me.

But mark this: There will be terrible times in the last days. People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy, without love, unforgiving, slanderous, without self-control, brutal, not lovers of the good, treacherous, rash, conceited, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of Godó having a form of godliness but denying its power. Have nothing to do with them.

There is a lot of false teaching, saying that anything goes, the Bible is a mere book of suggestion..... here is what it says about these people:

For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, masquerading as apostles of Christ. And no wonder, for Satan himself masquerades as an angel of light.2 Corinthians 11:14-15



Am I now trying to win the approval of men, or of God? Or am I trying to please men? If I were still trying to please men, I would not be a servant of Christ. Galatians 1:10
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Old 02-13-2008, 10:51 AM
 
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Many people forget that we are a nation founded on Biblical truth, but we also do have the priviledge of serving whatever god or no god at all.
It really is sad that many people want to eliminate any mention of "God" in our schools, on our currency, or in the marketplace. Mention Christ as the only way to God, and you got it coming.

Once a nation looses it's moral compass, there's no turning back.
May the Lord have mercy upon our us.
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Old 02-13-2008, 04:46 PM
 
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Default What do you think the original premise was?

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The United States is changing in ways that relate directly to its original premise and promise. That's never a bad thing.

On the other hand, there are some in the current majority who fear that the current minority will have a long memory. But that kind of fear is a waste of time and energy. In 40 years, our children will have no use for past animosities and hatred. They will be too busy cleaning up the mess made by the previous majority.
The origina; premise of the United States was not to create a multi-racial polygot empire. It was actually just the opposite. Once the White majority is reduced to minority expect the center to no longer hold. The country will become a Third World dump.
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Old 02-13-2008, 05:27 PM
 
Location: Atlanta, GA
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The origina; premise of the United States was not to create a multi-racial polygot empire. It was actually just the opposite. Once the White majority is reduced to minority expect the center to no longer hold. The country will become a Third World dump.
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Old 02-13-2008, 05:31 PM
 
Location: Sioux Falls Vicinity
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If it was a change in the sense that the # of people stayed the same, I would be OK with it. If the US population became mostly Hispanic in 42 years, but remained in the 300 millions, it would work, it works now. But we are talking about a growth of almost 200 million MORE people in 42 years based on IMMIGRATION ALONE.

Where will these people go to school? Where will they live? Where is the money for welfare/Social Security for all these people? Where are the doctors to care for these people? Where are the roads for they all to drive? How will the environment be affected by this (destruction of open spaces to building housing for these people, use of natural resources, water, etc)?

But most importantly, where are the JOBS for all these people who would enter the US immediately following an amnesty and the chain migration that soon would ensue?

You are not thinking long term. You are thinking the same amount of people becoming Hispanic and speaking Spanish. You need to think of political and civil consequences to the US to add 200 million people in such a short amount of time, in regards to jobs, healthcare, the environment, eocnomy, etc. Look outside the box.
Dude: ever tried Xanax?
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Old 02-13-2008, 05:31 PM
 
Location: southern california
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yep but it does not look like a bad future world
just leaner faster smarter.
less "we vs them" no?
the crutches and and cushions will be removed for all people.
accountability will go thru the roof.
repercussions for conduct will be draconian.
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Old 02-13-2008, 07:20 PM
 
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Default Have you booked your flight?

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International flights are departing daily ...
Have You Booked Your Flight?
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Old 02-14-2008, 12:55 AM
 
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Many people forget that we are a nation founded on Biblical truth, but we also do have the priviledge of serving whatever god or no god at all.
It really is sad that many people want to eliminate any mention of "God" in our schools, on our currency, or in the marketplace. Mention Christ as the only way to God, and you got it coming.

Once a nation looses it's moral compass, there's no turning back.
May the Lord have mercy upon our us.
yeah, but Latinos aren't specifically a mainly atheist group. does it matter if they are catholic and not protestant as the wide majority of whites are?
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Old 02-14-2008, 01:06 AM
 
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That is why socialized healthcare no longer works in Europe. They had a homogenous population and now they don't. They have high crime, civil unrest, poverty, drug violence, lazy peope living off welfare, and muders of anyone who speaks against Sharia Law.

I think someone should start a factory of posters........ "I am a racist and socialist and I vote" and send it to you guys.


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Look at the Asian countries: Japan, China, South Korea. They are all doing well, stable with very low crime rates and guess what, they are all homogeneous. We on the other hand are losing economic ground in every sphere.


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