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Old 03-30-2016, 02:04 PM
 
Location: My beloved Bluegrass
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The spin! It just keeps going...

Did you even watch the video? Or did you just cut and paste what suits your agenda?

He was asked IF it were illegal, would there need to be punishment.

Trump asked Matthews what he meant, did Matthews mean jail time?

Matthews did not answer that question. He kept hounding Trump, which on this particular issue, I get that, and I would expect it for all candidates.

In the end, Trump stated that there should be some punishment (IF it were illegal), but that could not say what that punishment would be, because it's a serious issue. So he's not just going to fly off and blurt something out to appease people, he would take the time to consider what it should be IF it were ever illegal....which you can all calm down, it's not going to be illegal and you know it.

If something is illegal, and there's no punishment...what sense would that make?

"Murder is illegal, but we're not going to do a thing to you if you murder someone." Seriously, people, get a grip.
Uhm.... It is that excusing of the sperm donor when you are prepared to punish the woman that is infuriating.
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Old 03-30-2016, 02:06 PM
 
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Excellent. He is ensuring general election landslide.
That's what it looks like to me. You can make an argument that if you consider abortion to be murder, then there should be punishment, but from the standpoint of electability in a general election, for a candidate that already has a 71% unfavorability with women overall, it looks like a death wish.
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Old 03-30-2016, 02:06 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Back when abortion was illegal (when America was still great), women were not punished for getting one. I dont know for certain as I was but a lad, but recall it was not even illegal to get an abortion - just to provide one.
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Old 03-30-2016, 02:07 PM
 
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Men have NO SAY SO in regards to abortions..

Thread FAILURE..
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Old 03-30-2016, 02:09 PM
 
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Uhm.... It is that excusing of the sperm donor when you are prepared to punish the woman that is infuriating.
Given the female can have abortions without the males permission, how can the guy be punished for something hehas no say in regards?
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Old 03-30-2016, 02:10 PM
 
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Donald Trump said there would “have to be some form of punishment” for women who have abortions if the procedure were outlawed, NBC News reports.
Ten minutes of having to listen to one of his campaign speeches should be sufficient.
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Old 03-30-2016, 02:13 PM
 
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The spin! It just keeps going...

Did you even watch the video? Or did you just cut and paste what suits your agenda?

He was asked IF it were illegal, would there need to be punishment.

Trump asked Matthews what he meant, did Matthews mean jail time?

Matthews did not answer that question. He kept hounding Trump, which on this particular issue, I get that, and I would expect it for all candidates.

In the end, Trump stated that there should be some punishment (IF it were illegal), but that could not say what that punishment would be, because it's a serious issue. So he's not just going to fly off and blurt something out to appease people, he would take the time to consider what it should be IF it were ever illegal....which you can all calm down, it's not going to be illegal and you know it.

If something is illegal, and there's no punishment...what sense would that make?

"Murder is illegal, but we're not going to do a thing to you if you murder someone." Seriously, people, get a grip.
I'm not sure why Trump even wastes time with these pundits anymore with their gotcha questions. Maybe Hillary is right to hide from them as much as she can.
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Old 03-30-2016, 02:14 PM
 
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Given the female can have abortions without the males permission, how can the guy be punished for something hehas no say in regards?
If it becomes illegal that distinction goes out the window, it will no longer be about her right to make decisions about her body. So, if she gets an abortion in the future, unless she does it despite him trying to stop her, he should bear responsibility also.
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Old 03-30-2016, 02:15 PM
 
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Trump's a misogynist.

Which anyone who isn't a member of the cult already knew. He says cruel things about women, he degrades women. He not only wants choice taken away.... he wants women punished for the most personal decision a woman can make.

Should he actually manage to get the nomination (which is looking less likely considering he just committed political suicide on national TV) , I look forward to the epic landslide of the Democrats in November. When women rise up and tell him exactly where he can put his "ideas".
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Old 03-30-2016, 02:16 PM
 
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If it becomes illegal that distinction goes out the window, it will no longer be about her right to make decisions about her body. So, if she gets an abortion in the future, unless she does it despite him trying to stop her, he bears responsibility.
no, if its illegal the distinction does not go out the window unless the guy forces her to have an abortion at gunpoint. She can go on her own, without the guys permission, immaterial of the legality of the act.
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