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Old 04-04-2016, 12:42 PM
 
Location: N Atlanta
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That second vote, is going to be brutal for "The Donald"


He has no ground game, and Ted has the Ron Paul Grassroots, that he had campaigning with Ron, during his senate run.
Ted has no game period and that is why the GOP hates him as done most of the electorate. Too many lies, too short a time ...
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Old 04-04-2016, 12:43 PM
 
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That second vote, is going to be brutal for "The Donald" He has no ground game, and Ted has the Ron Paul Grassroots, that he had campaigning with Ron, during his senate run.
Hmm. Ron Paul, Ground Game? When did he ever win a nomination? This speaks for itself too.

If it goes to the 2nd ballot, Cruz won't be getting to 1275. First all, not all the delegates become unbound, and 2nd there is no guarantee they will be voting for Cruz.
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Old 04-04-2016, 12:44 PM
 
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That happened because of how we got Woodrow Wilson, the most dangerous President to freedom to ever exist.(Yes, worse than Obama)
That leaves 33 states and thousands of GOP voters that will cross and go Independent or Democrat. Including me ...
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Old 04-04-2016, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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For the first ballot, yes the delegates are locked. For any ballots afterwards, no. From the 2nd ballot forward they may vote as they choose. Cruz's camp is courting them for the second vote and beyond, not the first.
That is not stealing. The delegates cease to be Trump's after the first vote. This is why people keep saying if he doesn't go into the convention with 1,237 delegates he will not be the nominee.


Isn't it interesting that Trump is concentrating on getting the 1237 needed to WIN while Cruz, knowing he will never get to 1237, is concentrating on how to rig the system in his favor after the first vote...What a sleeze bag!


Trump certainly has more to offer the delegates than Cruz but he is trying to win the election fair and square.
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Old 04-04-2016, 12:47 PM
 
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Ted has no game period and that is why the GOP hates him as done most of the electorate. Too many lies, too short a time ...
Ted is useful to the GOP as a mechanism to keep Trump from reaching the threshold of delegates. After that, they will abandon him, just as they will abandon Trump, as both are losers in a general election.

I do so hope they keep Trump from reaching that 1237 number. What happens after that is anybody's guess, but it promises to be very interesting.
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Old 04-04-2016, 12:52 PM
 
Location: N Atlanta
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Ted is useful to the GOP as a mechanism to keep Trump from reaching the threshold of delegates. After that, they will abandon him, just as they will abandon Trump, as both are losers in a general election.

I do so hope they keep Trump from reaching that 1237 number. What happens after that is anybody's guess, but it promises to be very interesting.
If what you say is true, ANY GOP candidate is a loser in the general election as so many voters will be disillusioned with the whole process and vote Dem unless Trump runs as an Independent.
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Old 04-04-2016, 12:55 PM
 
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If what you say is true, ANY GOP candidate is a loser in the general election as so many voters will be disillusioned with the whole process and vote Dem unless Trump runs as an Independent.
I agree. It looks like the GOP is in a no win situation. Trump or Cruz on the top of their ticket is a sure loser; anyone else on the top of their ticket minus the Trump supporters is a sure loser; Trump running third party is a sure loser.

Basically, the GOP is a sure loser this election cycle. And you can thank Donald Trump for that.
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Old 04-04-2016, 12:56 PM
 
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Who new that snaring was such an important skill for a presidential candidate to have. Well, at least the Republicans have one candidate with impressive snaring capabilities.
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Old 04-04-2016, 12:58 PM
 
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Who new that snaring was such an important skill for a presidential candidate to have. Well, at least the Republicans have one candidate with impressive snaring capabilities.
Do you have numerical evidence to back that up ? We already know that Cruz has impressive lying capabilities.
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Old 04-04-2016, 01:00 PM
 
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Do you have numerical evidence to back that up ? We already know that Cruz has impressive lying capabilities.
Project much? Apparently you do.
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