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Old 04-08-2016, 11:22 AM
 
Location: N Atlanta
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Which makes no difference when the MAJORITY of Coke drinkers don't like the taste of New Coke.
Coke has been taken off the shelves due to contamination.
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Old 04-08-2016, 11:23 AM
 
Location: N Atlanta
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Ted Cruz or Donald Trump could run as independents and win against anything the republican throw at the wall and hope it sticks.
Correction, Donald Trump could win ... Cruz will get his arse kicked. Too right-wing ...
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Old 04-08-2016, 11:23 AM
 
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Coke has been taken off the shelves due to contamination.
No, it hasn't. Your problem is that this is your fantasy, and you prefer your fantasy to reality.
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Old 04-08-2016, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Sinkholeville
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If one guy beats the other by millions of actual voters, the choice is obvious.
If one guy beats the other by hundreds of earned delegates, the choice is obvious.
If one guy beats the other by dozens of state primaries, the choice is obvious.


Who profits if the stupid party prefers to lose with Cruz? Or worse, import a substitute loser?


This message is brought to you by Goldman Sachs, owners of leading professional politicians in both parties.
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Old 04-08-2016, 11:25 AM
 
Location: Amongst the AZ Cactus
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No, it hasn't. Your problem is that this is your fantasy, and you prefer your fantasy to reality.
See your history. They told Regan he had very little/no chance of winning a general election. Some moderate/liberal actor hollywood guy becoming president? Crazy! His poll numbers were terrible, right up to the election which still showed him behind carter.

As for likeable, unfavorable polls, etc. See how well that worked out for ben carson. VERY high likable numbers. How'd he do in the polls? This is not a high school popularity contest. People want someone they think can get things done, not be liked.

Some of you need to reason a bit beyond the surface to see a bigger picture. Emotions are running crazy for some of you and logic is being checked at the door.
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Old 04-08-2016, 11:28 AM
 
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See your history. They told Regan he had very little/no chance of winning a general election. Some moderate/liberal actor hollywood guy becoming president? Crazy! His poll numbers were terrible, right up to the election which still showed him behind carter.
It's not the same thing.

Reagan's resume was seen as problematic, but Reagan was an ideal candidate otherwise.

Trump is damaging the Republican brand. He's inconsistent in his positions, he's incendiary in his rhetoric, and he's alienating to portions of the population that the GOP needs in order to win.
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Old 04-08-2016, 11:29 AM
 
Location: N Atlanta
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No, it hasn't. Your problem is that this is your fantasy, and you prefer your fantasy to reality.
Refer to Chute's post for a dose of reality to the right-wing establishment clowns that they have someone better than Trump for November.
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Old 04-08-2016, 11:30 AM
 
Location: N Atlanta
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It's not the same thing.

Reagan's resume was seen as problematic, but Reagan was an ideal candidate otherwise.

Trump is damaging the Republican brand. He's inconsistent in his positions, he's incendiary in his rhetoric, and he's alienating to portions of the population that the GOP needs in order to win.
The Republican brand is a joke right now as they haven't embraced the changing demographic of this country.

If you don't think Trump is adding value to the GOP, look at the GOP voters totals as compared to the losing years of 2008/2012.
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Old 04-08-2016, 11:31 AM
 
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If they still have a party. many I know will change to become an Independent so what party?
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Old 04-08-2016, 11:42 AM
 
Location: Amongst the AZ Cactus
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It's not the same thing.

Reagan's resume was seen as problematic, but Reagan was an ideal candidate otherwise.

Trump is damaging the Republican brand. He's inconsistent in his positions, he's incendiary in his rhetoric, and he's alienating to portions of the population that the GOP needs in order to win.
Reagan was down something like 30% from carter in a general election with carter at this time in the election cycle. That's not an "ideal" candidate. trump is doing better at this point against hillary assuming she's not indicted.

The "republican brand?" Seriously? It's a pathetic brand in the eyes of many including myself. I and many also think the democratic "brand" is a mess and sander's success is showing this front and center. The party is going far left to show their disapproval. The people aren't happy and voting accordingly.

I will tell you this....you want to see a beyond damaged brand? Let the "owners" of either party pick a candidate who didn't get the primary majority vote/delegates, even if it's within "the rules" of the party, and you'll see a generation flee both parties. About time I say. Maybe we'll end the party fixation nonsense, get some viable independent candidates running, and make our founding father John Adams very happy.
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