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Old 04-07-2016, 08:12 AM
 
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Highest and best use for Hillary is selling pencils from a cup outside Trump Towers. She can make a little money and not do anymore harm. It's a win - win for the country and Hillary.
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Old 04-07-2016, 08:16 AM
 
Location: north central Ohio
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Of course he campaigned for Obama! And Obama campaigned for him!


Are you really that out of it?

Guess I must be because I sure haven't seen it.
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Old 04-07-2016, 08:31 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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Guess I must be because I sure haven't seen it.
Google is your friend. NOT to mention that Sanders talks about Obama favorably in each of his speeches; no insinuations that Obama was 'bought out' by the 'big banks'.


He's a hypocrite.


When it suits him - big banks BAD. Wall Street BAD.


When it doesn't - crickets.
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Old 04-07-2016, 09:59 AM
 
Location: Texas
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He can belong to any political party he wants or none at all. But he chose to run for the nomination of the Democratic party, and as a baseline, that should mean you are a member of that party and support its platform.

But of course it was all about political expediency for him, not principles, which he himself has freely admitted.
Both Repub and Dem parties have disenfranchised their bases, they take all the goodies for themselves and their wealthy backers....left the scraps for the middle class if there were any

We'll see how these parties look after this election
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Old 04-07-2016, 10:10 AM
 
Location: Texas
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Google is your friend. NOT to mention that Sanders talks about Obama favorably in each of his speeches; no insinuations that Obama was 'bought out' by the 'big banks'.


He's a hypocrite.


When it suits him - big banks BAD. Wall Street BAD.


When it doesn't - crickets.
You don't appreciate the finer points/ ways of debating. You have no idea how to anticipate outcome of statements?

Everybody knows w/out saying how much certain politicians have been bought
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Old 04-07-2016, 10:25 AM
 
Location: Asgard
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If you're under investigation for some serious security breach or any investigation of any kind by the feds, this should disqualify you from running at the time ..period end of story.


You wait until you're cleared, you don't go around acting holier than thou.


Don't we have rules as to who can run?


That's like letting a teacher who is being investigated for child abuse teach while he/she is being investigated. Very bad idea.
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Old 04-07-2016, 10:30 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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You don't appreciate the finer points/ ways of debating. You have no idea how to anticipate outcome of statements?

Everybody knows w/out saying how much certain politicians have been bought
I certainly do.


Why did Sanders allow Obama to campaign for him ~ he certainly took that bad bad evil PAC money. Didn't bother Sanders then, did it?


NOW - that very same thing ~ makes Sanders opine that Clinton is UNQUALIFIED TO BE PRESIDENT. Certainly not one of the 'finer points of debating'. No nuance there. He spittles it out from the rooftop. o


When all this first started ~ I was so proud that the Democrats had such two good candidates. I was prepared to vote for either one and though that we would all work together. Sanders supporters quickly disabused me of that notion.


I don't know that he could ever earn my vote at this juncture.
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Old 04-07-2016, 10:34 AM
 
Location: Texas
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I certainly do.


Why did Sanders allow Obama to campaign for him ~ he certainly took that bad bad evil PAC money. Didn't bother Sanders then, did it?


NOW - that very same thing ~ makes Sanders opine that Clinton is UNQUALIFIED TO BE PRESIDENT. Certainly not one of the 'finer points of debating'. No nuance there. He spittles it out from the rooftop. o


When all this first started ~ I was so proud that the Democrats had such two good candidates. I was prepared to vote for either one and though that we would all work together. Sanders supporters quickly disabused me of that notion.


I don't know that he could ever earn my vote at this juncture.
It might be too tall of an order to expect anyone running for office or anyone ever having run for office to never have accepted/used pac funds in their political carreer

However, it is Bernie's right to take this issue on, and prove that in this presidential race that it can be done
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Old 04-07-2016, 10:37 AM
 
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If so, why isn't Hillary indicted? For a long time I keep hearing about these terrible emails, etc.
How long can we talk about that? A year, 10, 20?
If she broke the law, they should have brought accusations on the same day she announced to be running.
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Old 04-07-2016, 10:37 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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It might be too tall of an order to expect anyone running for office or anyone ever having run for office to never have accepted/used pac funds in their political carreer

However, it is Bernie's right to take this issue on, and prove that in this presidential race that it can be done
Then he is a hypocrite; in taking this issue on - he points the finger at only one person when, in reality, he is saying that Obama is unqualified; John Kerry is unqualified; Elizabeth Warren is unqualified and I hope that Hillary starts to point that out.
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