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Old 02-12-2008, 03:11 PM
 
Location: Albemarle, NC
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I've found that those people who say they support the Constitution really are not that knowledgeable about it. Thurgood Marshall could say that he based his whole career on the Constitution and he was very critical of it.
I see. So you don't believe Paul. Any specific reason or just another generalization?
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Old 02-12-2008, 03:15 PM
 
Location: South Side
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I believe Libertarianism is outdated since 1812 and ignores modern foreign policy. I believe there is a reason, with all the money he raised, Ron Paul failed to generate any support among the populace.

I believe the Paul supporters who wrap him and themselves in the flag are welcome to their own political views, but they are just so annoying!
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Old 02-12-2008, 03:18 PM
 
Location: Albemarle, NC
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I believe Libertarianism is outdated since 1812 and ignores modern foreign policy. I believe there is a reason, with all the money he raised, Ron Paul failed to generate any support among the populace.

I believe the Paul supporters who wrap him and themselves in the flag are welcome to their own political views, but they are just so annoying!
What? I thought we were talking about the Constitution? You went everywhere but there. Would you like to address where you believe he fails in his upholding of the document?

Modern foreign policy is not supported by the Constitution. Libertarianism is. Again, ignoring the lack of any media coverage (which you will claim is because he doesn't resonate), one can hardly expect any candidate to gather support.
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Old 02-12-2008, 03:20 PM
 
Location: Here
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Now that makes no sense whatsoever. Obama has way more (obvious from the votes) annoying support than Ron Paul.
I just find the Ron Paul supports have a more "in-your-face approach". I frequent numerous message boards and it the same thing on everyone of them. They bombard every site with a million news links or YouTube vidoes.
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Old 02-12-2008, 03:24 PM
 
Location: Albemarle, NC
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I just find the Ron Paul supports have a more "in-your-face approach". I frequent numerous message boards and it the same thing on everyone of them. They bombard every site with a million news links or YouTube vidoes.
On this forum right now, there is 1 Ron Paul headline. 7 for Hillary. 7 for Obama. 2 for McCain. And none for Huckabee.

Maybe we shouldn't submit so much.
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Old 02-12-2008, 03:25 PM
 
Location: South Side
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What? I thought we were talking about the Constitution? You went everywhere but there. Would you like to address where you believe he fails in his upholding of the document?

Modern foreign policy is not supported by the Constitution. Libertarianism is. Again, ignoring the lack of any media coverage (which you will claim is because he doesn't resonate), one can hardly expect any candidate to gather support.
Now did the Constitution foresee the Industrial Revolution? Probably not. Doesn't the 14th Amdt equal protection of laws make the Civil Rights Act redundant? Probably not. That document which is the source of our laws is subject to interpretation and change.

Is there an inalienable right to privacy? Even conservatives say so but it sure as h**l ain't in the Constitution.

Then comes the paranoia. 'If only we had fair media coverage Ron Paul would have won.' Success breeds success. The libertarian message is no new thing in the US -- it just never gained adherents. So, you Paul supporters, there's no conspiracy against you there just ain't that many people for you!
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Old 02-12-2008, 03:27 PM
 
Location: Denver
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On this forum right now, there is 1 Ron Paul headline. 7 for Hillary. 7 for Obama. 2 for McCain. And none for Huckabee.

Maybe we shouldn't submit so much.
Yeah because he is all but out of the race. Look back over the last year here on conservative-data.com, look in other forums like Immigration too, not just this one. I think all of the 8k Ron Paul fans are in the internet forums posting in a loop. Save yourselves some time and just write a macro or something.
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Old 02-12-2008, 03:29 PM
 
Location: Albemarle, NC
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Now did the Constitution foresee the Industrial Revolution? Probably not. Doesn't the 14th Amdt equal protection of laws make the Civil Rights Act redundant? Probably not. That document which is the source of our laws is subject to interpretation and change.

Is there an inalienable right to privacy? Even conservatives say so but it sure as h**l ain't in the Constitution.

Then comes the paranoia. 'If only we had fair media coverage Ron Paul would have won.' Success breeds success. The libertarian message is no new thing in the US -- it just never gained adherents. So, you Paul supporters, there's no conspiracy against you there just ain't that many people for you!
You still didn't address Ron Paul and the Constitution. You're talking about the document itself. Where has HE failed in following it over the past few decades?

The 4th amendment : papers, persons, house, effects. That's pretty much all of it as far as privacy goes, protecting us from government intrusion, not necessarily real privacy.

Painting a 10 term Republican as a libertarian is a self-fulfilling prophecy in itself. Doesn't it get annoying trying to dodge my actual questions?
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Old 02-12-2008, 03:30 PM
 
Location: Albemarle, NC
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Yeah because he is all but out of the race. Look back over the last year here on conservative-data.com, look in other forums like Immigration too, not just this one. I think all of the 8k Ron Paul fans are in the internet forums posting in a loop.
He's far from being out of the race. He's received far more than 8k votes. Why do people not do their own research these days?
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Old 02-12-2008, 03:31 PM
 
Location: Denver
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He's far from being out of the race. He's received far more than 8k votes. Why do people not do their own research these days?
Ok 8,001 , that part was a joke, but I do think all of the RP supporters are members of this forum, have multiple accounts and send PM's to themselves at night.
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