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Old 02-12-2008, 03:32 PM
 
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Old 02-12-2008, 03:32 PM
 
Location: Albemarle, NC
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ok 8,001 , it was a joke, but I do think all of the RP supporters are members of this forum.
I considered posting a link to one of the presidential polls on his forums, but I didn't think the servers here could handle it.
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Old 02-12-2008, 03:35 PM
 
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Ok 8,001 , that part was a joke, but I do think all of the RP supporters are members of this forum.
Yeah and combat vets, We just don't buy into the do as the party Puppets say BS.
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Old 02-12-2008, 03:37 PM
 
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He's far from being out of the race. He's received far more than 8k votes. Why do people not do their own research these days?
You really think he can win the gop nomination? Be truthful
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Old 02-12-2008, 03:38 PM
 
Location: DFW, TX
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Now did the Constitution foresee the Industrial Revolution? Probably not.
Sure it did. Article V.

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Doesn't the 14th Amdt equal protection of laws make the Civil Rights Act redundant? Probably not.
Depends on your interpretation of the 14th Amendment, and your views on if it was properly introduced and ratified. There's much to debate about the 14th Amendment.

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That document which is the source of our laws is subject to interpretation and change.
Again, Article V.

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Is there an inalienable right to privacy? Even conservatives say so but it sure as h**l ain't in the Constitution.
You mean it's not enumerated, but we do under the 9th Amendment... but is it inalienable? Some aspects of privacy are, others aren't. The principle of the expectation of privacy, while it may have been perverted, serves as a good basis for the right.

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Then comes the paranoia. 'If only we had fair media coverage Ron Paul would have won.' Success breeds success. The libertarian message is no new thing in the US -- it just never gained adherents. So, you Paul supporters, there's no conspiracy against you there just ain't that many people for you!
No, it's not new... but views outside of the two parties aren't given much visibility by the mainstream media. It's not limited to libertarians. I don't think it's a conspiracy, it just means that we have to work that much harder for the average person to hear the message.
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Old 02-12-2008, 03:39 PM
 
Location: Denver
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Yeah and combat vets, We just don't buy into the do as the party Puppets say BS.
Hey I served in Desert Storm. I just think the guy makes a bad president, but I am not a conservative either.
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Old 02-12-2008, 03:40 PM
 
Location: Albemarle, NC
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You really think he can win the gop nomination? Be truthful
The nomination, not without some serious brokering at the convention. The delegate scores reported by the media are not correct. Still, he has a long way to go to catch up to McCain. We will know more after the state conventions are held.

But he can influence the GOP almost as much as if he had. Remember, this isn't about Ron Paul any longer. It's about returning the GOP to conservative principles. They've paid a lot of lip service over the years. I suspect if Goldwater had actually won over Ford, the US would look a lot different than it does today.
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Old 02-12-2008, 03:42 PM
 
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Hey I served in Desert Storm. I just think the guy makes a bad president, but I am not a conservative either.
Thats fair! But look at what we have as a conservative
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Old 02-12-2008, 03:42 PM
 
Location: DFW, TX
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You really think he can win the gop nomination? Be truthful
I don't... but it doesn't stop me from volunteering my time or money. Do you think we can solve the problem of homelessness and hunger? If not, should we stop our efforts to combat them?

I wake up in the morning knowing that I am doing everything in my power to attempt to fix a situation that I see as broken. You may disagree with my assessment of the situation, or the means I take to remedy it, but I take offense when people criticize my actions to do what I feel is right.
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Old 02-12-2008, 03:42 PM
 
Location: Albemarle, NC
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I don't think it's a conspiracy, it just means that we have to work that much harder for the average person to hear the message.
Meh, I'm not sure it isn't a conspiracy. But I think the media plays the drama card too much. How much drama does a candidate with principles bring to the race? None. There's no flip flopping. There's no "I said this then because...but I'm saying this now because..." There are only so many times the media can report on someone who holds a specific stance and has the record to prove it. That makes for really boring news coverage.
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