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Old 07-17-2016, 01:39 PM
 
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Ant kind of constitutional amendment is hard to get through in good times (and takes years), in this climate it's practically impossible.

This is clearly a play for Bernie voters.
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Old 07-17-2016, 01:44 PM
 
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Support these ammendments:

Abolishing the Death Penalty

Imminent Domain is unlawful

State and Church ate seperate. Religious symbols, monuments, words can not be included in government property. Exceptions would be maintain at Veteran and Goverment hospitals/cemeteries. Additionally, Goverment can not involve itself in Church matters unless human life, animal life, or illegal activities occur.

Abortion is legal with no restrictions and Stem Cell research is legal

Marijuana is legal in the United States

Lesbians, gays, crossdressers, and transgenders have equal rights. No goverment or private business may infringe on rights of the LGBT. No laws should infringe on LGBT individuals. Churches however, can infringe as it is a seperate matter from the Goverment and is an secular issue.

Political campaigns can not be funded by the goverment or corporations

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Old 07-17-2016, 02:31 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Clinton pledges constitutional amendment to overturn Citizens United ruling - POLITICO

The world is on fire we have a burgeoning race war and this is the most important thing she can come up with?
I think it's an important topic, don't you?
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Old 07-17-2016, 03:51 PM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
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No one believes her. Her supporters simply don't mind her brand of corruption if it helps their bank account.
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She'll do exactly what she is told to do. She wants there money just like Benedict Arnold.
Lands. Extreme lefties sound just like the tea party. Only more bitter - IF that is even possible.

Go vote for Trump because you are actually starting to shill for him.

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Ant kind of constitutional amendment is hard to get through in good times (and takes years), in this climate it's practically impossible.

This is clearly a play for Bernie voters.
Democrats have been wanting to overturn CU for a long time.
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Old 07-17-2016, 06:33 PM
 
Location: Chicago
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Lands. Extreme lefties sound just like the tea party. Only more bitter - IF that is even possible.

Go vote for Trump because you are actually starting to shill for him.



Democrats have been wanting to overturn CU for a long time.
Now now. There is a chance that Clinton will win and the Parasites will keep getting their donations to their bank accounts by stealing the money from the middle working class. That's the plan, right? To keep the money flowing?
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Old 07-17-2016, 06:45 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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Clinton pledges constitutional amendment to overturn Citizens United ruling - POLITICO

The world is on fire we have a burgeoning race war and this is the most important thing she can come up with?

“The amendment would allow Americans to establish common sense rules to protect against the undue influence of billionaires and special interests and to restore the role of average voters in elections,” a Clinton spokesman said in statement.

Read more: Clinton pledges constitutional amendment to overturn Citizens United ruling - POLITICO
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And Hillary is the one to get money and special interests out of politics? Laughable.
It''s an issue with politics. That don't mean it is the ONLY problem. To say that is a straw man argument.
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Old 07-17-2016, 09:12 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Clinton pledges constitutional amendment to overturn Citizens United ruling - POLITICO

The world is on fire we have a burgeoning race war and this is the most important thing she can come up with?

“The amendment would allow Americans to establish common sense rules to protect against the undue influence of billionaires and special interests and to restore the role of average voters in elections,” a Clinton spokesman said in statement.

Read more: Clinton pledges constitutional amendment to overturn Citizens United ruling - POLITICO
Follow us: @politico on Twitter | Politico on Facebook

And Hillary is the one to get money and special interests out of politics? Laughable.
Hardly laughable. Citizens United is a decision that is despised by many people in both parties. The corrupting influence of $ billions from groups that are allowed to remain in the shadows, spending big money to advance agendas that specifically favor them alone, has reached it's black talons into every state, all the way down to local elections.

This is a major reason why Trump is now the Republican nominee. There are many differences between the traditional PAC groups, like the RNC and the DNC, and the Super-PACs.

The first has many regulations on accountability and clarity as to where the money comes from, where it goes, and how its spent. There are many restrictions as to who is allowed to contribute to a PAC as well. And the voters can always learn who is a member of a tradtional PAC, as all membership is required to be open knowledge.

The second- the Super PAC- has almost none at all. If the traditional PAC is an attack dog, a Super-PAC is an attack lion in comparison.

As long as it is a legal corporation, donors can be anonymous, the number of donors, and the location of the donors, can be kept completely secret. The closest the individual contributors come to being exposed is only the location of the Super-PAC headquarters, and the headquarters can be nothing more than an empty office with one person in it. In back of some small town strip mall far away from where the meetings are actually held, and even farther away from where the money actually goes.

A corporation can easily have sub-corporations within it that further cloak huge amounts of money, so as voters, we will never know if major contributors are even American citizens. A Super-Pac doesn't even have to be in the United States, as long as it is legally incorporated here.

For all we know about them, they could be from anywhere, holding any belief, not matter how damaging to us it is, and the members could all be patriotic Americans or ISIS for all we know, or will ever know, wrapping themselves in one sub-corporation after another like an onion for protection, all wrapped in an American flag so it looks good.

The SCOTUS decision was a very dangerous decision for our republic.
The more a person looks into the Super Pacs, the more the alarm grows.
Even when a thoughtful voter knows nothing about them or how they work, they all smell slightly rotten, don't they?

That's part of the reason why both Trump, Bernie and Clinton all decry them.

All have and use traditional political PACs, as did the other candidates. That's because, in the end, the total amounts of money every candidate gets shows up every time.

This is the only safeguard we voters have, but its a very weak one once anyone tries to track down a Super Pac.

Trying to learn who's at the bottom of any Super PAC is like going down a spider hole. The deeper one goes, the more likely it is to encounter some very nasty human spiders. Finding any of them will take a lot of time, bravery, and financial commitment.
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Old 07-17-2016, 10:34 PM
 
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I think it's an important topic, don't you?
You think its important to have a constitutional amendment to remove ones first amendment right, within the first 30 days? Wow.. I've heard it all..
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Old 07-17-2016, 10:52 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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You think its important to have a constitutional amendment to remove ones first amendment right, within the first 30 days? Wow.. I've heard it all..
Ah yes, you're one of those geniuses who believe that "corporations are people" when it comes to elections and that we should let billionaires anonymously funnel unlimited dollars to bias elections in their favor. Clever. Of course, this is just the kind of idiocy that a conservative would get on board with.

Citizens United should be overturned.
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Old 07-17-2016, 11:20 PM
 
Location: Buckeye, AZ
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You think its important to have a constitutional amendment to remove ones first amendment right, within the first 30 days? Wow.. I've heard it all..
Do corporations deserve the rights of men (and women)?
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