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Old 04-22-2016, 11:36 AM
 
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I think the interesting thing was that Trump did that on steroids, he swung faaaar to the right all the way to white nationalist and now it's a long way back to the center to the extend that he couldn't even wait to do it after the primaries.
It may be because it's such a long way back that he has to start now. And Trump's rhetorical style lends itself to this. He actually rarely commits to a position, it's more, "they say/do blah-blah-blah, how ridiculous is that?" In other words, he takes a situation, puts it in its most extreme context, and makes fun of it, implying that he shares the opinions of his audience, no matter how far right or how centrist the audience is. It gives him a lot of leeway.
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Old 04-22-2016, 12:07 PM
 
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The media tarred and feathered Reagan. They said he would start WWIII and called him a war monger, called him Hitler, called him a fascist, said his policies would be the end of America, made fun of him constantly, said he was racist, accused him of being a KKK sympathizer, said he was a washed up actor TV personality, just to start with.
Does any of this sound familiar?
So basically history is repeating itself lol
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Old 04-22-2016, 12:22 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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So basically history is repeating itself lol
Not really. Reagan had positions and principles he stood for and did not just put on an act to get the uneducated to back him then pull a switcheroo. Also, one may have disagreed with Reagan's stands, but at least he was qualified for the position he was seeking having been involved in politics for years and as governor of the second most populous state. Trump is just a loud mouth without a clue on how to manage the Presidency and whose manager now tells us that he was just putting on a show and will morph into something else in time for the election. (and still they follow him).
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Old 04-22-2016, 12:26 PM
 
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You are exactly right. The pivot has begun:

"Donald Trump's chief lieutenants told skeptical Republican leaders Thursday that the GOP front-runner has been "projecting an image" so far in the 2016 primary season and "the part that he's been playing is now evolving" in a way that will improve his standing among general election voters.

The message, delivered behind closed doors in a private briefing, is part of the campaign's intensifying effort to convince party leaders Trump will moderate his tone in the coming months to help deliver big electoral gains this fall, despite his contentious ways."

Trump team tells GOP he has been 'projecting an image'

Donald's entire campaign has been scripted from the start. It is being run by his friends and partners in the former firm of Black, Stone, Manafort and Kelly.

Stone was the "face of the campaign" for Donald until August, when he "resigned," but is still working behind the scenes (he and Donald are good friends). Manafort came aboard a few weeks ago as the "new face of the campaign." Manafort is good friends and former partner of Stone and Charlie Black.

And Charlie Black has been running John Kasich's campaign from the beginning.

Black Stone and Manafort. What do these three have in common? Donald Trump. All are former lobbyist for Trump and all are friends of Donald.

Donald is playing his fan base and they are loving it!!!
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Old 04-22-2016, 12:47 PM
 
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There will be a Wall. The majority want the wall. We can't continue to spend $113 billion a year on supporting the illegals with more pouring in all the time. Price tag for amnesty is $6.3 trillion. We don't have the money for this and the crimes by the illegals are horrific. We must shut them down. E-verify all jobs, make medical facilities, schools, etc. mandated reporters when they suspect someone is illegally present and we'll start to clear them out but we must stop the influx. Right now, they are pouring in again, I'm watching it.
There will be no wall. The proof is looking at Trump's past. He hired illegals when he could. He's a businessman and business WANTS illegals.

Trump admits he is only ACTING now. You can take whatever he is saying with a grain of salt.
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Old 04-22-2016, 12:51 PM
 
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Regulated borders and a reversal of the march towards globalism might be nationalism but it isn't white nationalism.
I am not making it up, Trump has enjoyed wide support from those groups, he must of said something they liked, Trump didn't invent the concept of dog whistles nor is he the first one to use them.
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Old 04-22-2016, 12:53 PM
 
Location: Amongst the AZ Cactus
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Not really. Reagan had positions and principles he stood for and did not just put on an act to get the uneducated to back him then pull a switcheroo. Also, one may have disagreed with Reagan's stands, but at least he was qualified for the position he was seeking having been involved in politics for years and as governor of the second most populous state. Trump is just a loud mouth without a clue on how to manage the Presidency and whose manager now tells us that he was just putting on a show and will morph into something else in time for the election. (and still they follow him).
The "qualified" sure have been doing an impressive job running the country.


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Donald's entire campaign has been scripted from the start. It is being run by his friends and partners in the former firm of Black, Stone, Manafort and Kelly.

Stone was the "face of the campaign" for Donald until August, when he "resigned," but is still working behind the scenes (he and Donald are good friends). Manafort came aboard a few weeks ago as the "new face of the campaign." Manafort is good friends and former partner of Stone and Charlie Black.

And Charlie Black has been running John Kasich's campaign from the beginning.

Black Stone and Manafort. What do these three have in common? Donald Trump. All are former lobbyist for Trump and all are friends of Donald.

Donald is playing his fan base and they are loving it!!!
And no other politicians, past or currently running, are playing their bases just to get elected and will do most/even a few things they promise the herd?

Hint: They ALL are playing their fan base, serve their donors/money backers. Even **gasp** your guy/gal running that you like. Welcome to reality.

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There will be no wall. The proof is looking at Trump's past. He hired illegals when he could. He's a businessman and business WANTS illegals.

Trump admits he is only ACTING now. You can take whatever he is saying with a grain of salt.
Disagree. But if he chooses to not build a wall, which isn't brain surgery/frankly isn't costly compared to the other nonsense the gov funds these days in comparison even if we end up paying for it, he will be a one term guy.
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Old 04-22-2016, 12:53 PM
 
Location: Jamestown, NY
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Is this the start of Trumps political move to the center then? I mean we're out of the south, after next week all we have next are a few mid western states to vote and California. I suspect we may not hear many "did I forget to denounce the KKK oops" lines again. He appreciates the votes though.

Surely he's not going to crap all over his base??
Surely the Buffoonanator has never, ever told his victims what they wanted to hear in any of his little money making scam -- er, I mean, deals -- like Trump University???
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Old 04-22-2016, 01:00 PM
 
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Not really. Reagan had positions and principles he stood for and did not just put on an act to get the uneducated to back him then pull a switcheroo.
This. Reagan had nearly 20 years experience in politics before becoming governor of CA. Then he had another 9 years as governor doing what he said he would do. Like you said, he had position and principles he stood for. Trump has neither. He's a slave to the almighty dollar, just like most others. You dont fund and support things you claim to be against like illegal immigration, Obamacare, sanctuary cities etc...
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Old 04-22-2016, 01:06 PM
 
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Disagree. But if he chooses to not build a wall, which isn't brain surgery/frankly isn't costly compared to the other nonsense the gov funds these days in comparison even if we end up paying for it, he will be a one term guy.
Trump is a con man. He's been one for a long time. People who signed up for Trump University can tell you this. So can a lot of his previous investors.

He won't care if he's a one term guy. Con jobs aren't supposed to last a long time anyway. They are only designed to take the money and run.
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