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Originally Posted by DC at the Ridge
It may be the last gasp of the Tea Party, but it's not the last gasp of conservatism. Conservatism plays an important role in our country's political system. It's impossible to ignore that.
I didn't say conservatism is going away. I'm saying a particular brands of it will be marginalized.
I would now like to expand on something I just touched on in my last post. Have you noticed some posts/threads on the board about Kasich? Have you noticed that some older school democrats are just fine with him? To me that gives the signs/signals of where American conservatism is heading longer term. It will be from the ranks of disaffected center democrates where the Republican Party will rebuild/rebrand itself....at a successful repulican party.
It going to be interesting watching this shift over in the next decade or two.
I agree. She's never been on the national stage before. In the past, I always said family members are off-limit, but not when one of them campaigns for a presidential candidate and makes TV appearances. Just yesterday she appeared on Fox and MSNBC.
I was going to start a new thread, but I want to post an example of what the GOP might throw at Bernie. Forget his trip to Nicaragua or praising Fidel Castro, he said he doesn't believe in charity at a United Way fundraiser.
''I don't believe in charities,'' said Mayor Sanders, bringing a shocked silence to a packed hotel banquet room. The Mayor, who is a Socialist, went on to question the ''fundamental concepts on which charities are based'' and contended that government, rather than charity organizations, should take over responsibility for social programs."
Wow, no wonder Jane Sanders said yesterday Bernie hasn't used investigations into the Clinton Foundation in his campaign. After all, it only helps millions of people around the world fight AIDS with life-saving drugs. No wonder they hate billionaires. I mean the Bill & Melissa Gates Foundation helps the world’s poorest people from starving to death. It funds education for students in the poorest areas of the U.S. with the educational tools to become successful. Yup, damn those charitable foundations!
I am telling you, this Sanders guy is pure evil. The devil incarnate.
I didn't say conservatism is going away. I'm saying a particular brands of it will be marginalized.
I would now like to expand on something I just touched on in my last post. Have you noticed some posts/threads on the board about Kasich? Have you noticed that some older school democrats are just fine with him? To me that gives the signs/signals of where American conservatism is heading longer term. It will be from the ranks of disaffected center democrates where the Republican Party will rebuild/rebrand itself....at a successful repulican party.
It going to be interesting watching this shift over in the next decade or two.
I disagree with your comments about Kasich. Because he is so far behind, he's gotten limited media attention and limited vetting of his actual record. He talks like a moderate but his record absolutely is not moderate. I think some Dems think they could support him because they don't know the real story. If he somehow became the nominee and starts getting challenged more on his record, that Democratic support would fade away.
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Originally Posted by emm74
I disagree with your comments about Kasich. Because he is so far behind, he's gotten limited media attention and limited vetting of his actual record. He talks like a moderate but his record absolutely is not moderate. I think some Dems think they could support him because they don't know the real story. If he somehow became the nominee and starts getting challenged more on his record, that Democratic support would fade away.
A truly moderate Republican could get a lot of support even from Dems. But John Kasich isn't a truly moderate Republican.
I actually can't disagree you all that much about Kasich himself.
But it's the talk around him/contemplation of him that's important. I think more than a few dems are extremely unhappy about sanders being taken seriously this election cycle. I think they also see where the party is heading....to the left. And as I stated earlier there will be in fight in the Democratic Party. How loud it gets will depends on how Hillary negotiates with the republicans.
Now if the republicans are smart.
1. If Trump wins the nomination. The should "punt" on this election. (as bill maher said).
2. They should be listening to the grumblings of the centrists in the Democratic Party. And try to find a message and a possibility a candidate that is palatable to that center. Especially if the candidate(s) after Hillary for the Dems are closer to Bernie in substance and tone (like I think they will be.)
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