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Old 05-02-2016, 11:59 AM
 
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Looks like Bernie is working the "Ted Cruz" plan to being nominated. If you can win it by the popular vote, then win it by playing the rules.

Fascinates me that Hillary, with all the King's horses & all the King's men, hasn't been able to put him away yet. This speaks to her flaws as a general election candidate.

Sanders: 'It will be a contested convention' - POLITICO
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Old 05-02-2016, 12:06 PM
 
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Cruz has a better shot at a GOP contested convention than Sanders does with a Democrat contested convention imo. Depends how you want to spin the math, but I would think Clinton will get her 218 with 1243 delegates remaining.

Democrat Delegates: 2,383 needed for nomination · 1,243 still available (Clinton needs 218 more to secure the nomination)

GOP Delegates: 1,237 needed for nomination · 571 still available (Trump needs 241)
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Old 05-02-2016, 12:15 PM
 
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^On that I agree. The DNC is against Bernie.
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Old 05-02-2016, 12:16 PM
 
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^On that I agree. The DNC is against Bernie.
How would it be fair if the person who got less votes won the nomination? The DNC's rules are pretty fair.
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Old 05-02-2016, 12:18 PM
 
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How would it be fair if the person who got less votes won the nomination? The DNC's rules are pretty fair.
That's debatable with the super-delegate rule. They vote for whomever they want, regardless of what the voters want.
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Old 05-02-2016, 12:18 PM
 
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It's very simple. Bernie is appealing to a segment of the democratic base that is tired of the 3rd way centrist I'm basically a republican who is pro choice politics the democrats have been playing since Bill Clinton. They want a real progressive.
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Old 05-02-2016, 12:25 PM
 
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Bernie's not a Democrat.
He agreed to the DNC rules when he chose to run as a Democrat.
He is a superdelegate himself.
He raised more money than Hillary from individual donations, and he outspent her in several states, but he didn't manage to overtake her in pledged delegates or the popular vote.

Translation: nobody's being cheated out of anything.
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Old 05-02-2016, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Amongst the AZ Cactus
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Cruz has a better shot at a GOP contested convention than Sanders does with a Democrat contested convention imo. Depends how you want to spin the math, but I would think Clinton will get her 218 with 1243 delegates remaining.

Democrat Delegates: 2,383 needed for nomination · 1,243 still available (Clinton needs 218 more to secure the nomination)

GOP Delegates: 1,237 needed for nomination · 571 still available (Trump needs 241)
I disagree. You're ignoring the elephant in the room, the fbi investigation against clinton on the email and perhaps the foundation thing.

Grassley: FBI could leak Clinton email investigation

So even if politics steps in, I don't think it matters as what's mentioned in the above article. I think sander's smells this.
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Old 05-02-2016, 12:31 PM
 
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I disagree. You're ignoring the elephant in the room, the fbi investigation against clinton on the email and perhaps the foundation thing.

Grassley: FBI could leak Clinton email investigation

So even if politics steps in, I don't think it matters as what's mentioned in the above article. I think sander's smells this.
That elephant is a mere whisper, that keeps being brought up mostly by conservative MSM and liberal MSM who are on the Sander's train. If Sec. Clinton was to face any criminal charges, that boat would have left the harbor ages ago imo.
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Old 05-02-2016, 12:36 PM
 
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I certainly hope he does. If he can sway the system—highly unlikely with Clinton's and Wasserman's at the wheel—zillions of indy's would vote dem on top of the documented popular vote. It would be a landslide.
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