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Old 05-05-2016, 12:00 PM
 
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Do you want to win the general election or just be stubborn and lose for the 3rd time?
Isn't the core problem that you (Trump supporters) don't know what you are voting for, because his platform is a moving target? You are going to vote for him for one or more specific reasons, right? Immigration, trade, abortion, whatever. If you don't know where he REALLY stands on those matters in his sincere PERSONAL belief, what are you really voting for? Indeed, he could go "off the reservation" on you guys on any issue at any time.

He's stressed over and over that he is "flexible" and "changed his mind" . . . . remember the debate in early March when he literally said he changed his position on H1B visas (it's a good thing!!; and of course, he changed it back a week later) and that he could be convinced to lower the Wall from 50 feet to 45 feet (gee, how about maybe 10 feet???). Watch it on YouTube again if you don't remember.

Mick
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Old 05-05-2016, 12:01 PM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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I'm also a Trump supporter, it's expected in some areas. He is following the advice he gives in his book "the art of the deal" and I'm sure we will see more room for negotiating in other areas. This is needed in order to get anything done, so it's okay with me as long as he doesn't forfeit an entire position, which I don't think he will do. You start out at one extreme end, so you can meet in the middle. If you start in the middle, you will only end up with nothing or something way left.
It doesn't seem to bother you that Trump changes positions at the drop of a hat? If he so easily switches positions, how do you know what he will do if elected?
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Old 05-05-2016, 12:01 PM
 
Location: By the sea, by the sea, by the beautiful sea
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You're forgetting the queen of flip flops. Most recently:

Clinton Flip-Flops on Coal, Now Wants Coal to Prosper | The Weekly Standard

"Hillary Clinton has a very complicated opinion of coal. In March, she proudly
declared, "we are going to put a lot of coal miners and coal companies out of business."

Now, she says she wants to see coal "continued to be sold and continued to be mined."

Which is it?"



I think it's obvious he's a moderate which most voters are. Our country has been not seeing much gray for a long time now, "my way or no way!". How's that been working for us?
What a slacker, she took over a month to flip-flop. Donny on the other hand told us if abortion were to become illegal there would have to be some form of punishment for women who had them, less than 3 hours later he said they'd be victims. Now that's a pretty good flippy-floppy time!
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Old 05-05-2016, 12:02 PM
 
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I'm a trump supporter, but it needs to be said..

we all seen this coming

In reversal, Trump expresses openness to raising minimum wage | TheHill
Yep, did I call it or what? Its only been ONE day and Trump is already flip-flopping and pandering to the left for votes. A pathetic fraud.
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Old 05-05-2016, 12:03 PM
 
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Do you want to win the general election or just be stubborn and lose for the 3rd time?

I want to elect a president who believes in the Constitution and vows to uphold it and to govern by it.

There is no current candidate that meets that description, so any vote for any current candidate is a loss for the country.

Stop whining. Donald and his fan base are responsible for November. No one is being "stubborn." Stop looking for scapegoats to blame. You only have to look at those champions of Donald. THEY are the ones who supported him. THEY are the ones responsible for getting voters to the polls in November and whining and name calling isn't going to work. Own it.

#NeverTrump
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Old 05-05-2016, 12:03 PM
 
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Do you want to win the general election or just be stubborn and lose for the 3rd time?
Trump's whole campaign is based on his macho bravado and its his way or the highway and now his supporters are ok with him flip-flopping and pandering to the left? LOL!! Truly pathetic.
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Old 05-05-2016, 12:04 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, PA
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The establishment is desperate to make Trump look more like Hillary and Hillary more like Trump. Who said Trump supporters were against a minimal raise of some sort?
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Old 05-05-2016, 12:04 PM
 
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Well, historically, he always was more a liberal than a conservative in his leanings. Now watch how all of the conservatives who cheered him when he was pretending to be one of them howl now that he starts his flip flopping.

Pass the popcorn, the show is just getting started.


This is just a negotiating point. He will raise the minimum wage if the Democrats don't attempt the stop the repeal of Obamacare.
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Old 05-05-2016, 12:05 PM
 
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Isn't the core problem that you (Trump supporters) don't know what you are voting for, because his platform is a moving target? You are going to vote for him for one or more specific reasons, right? Immigration, trade, abortion, whatever. If you don't know where he REALLY stands on those matters in his sincere PERSONAL belief, what are you really voting for? Indeed, he could go "off the reservation" on you guys on any issue at any time.

He's stressed over and over that he is "flexible" and "changed his mind" . . . . remember the debate in early March when he literally said he changed his position on H1B visas (it's a good thing!!; and of course, he changed it back a week later) and that he could be convinced to lower the Wall from 50 feet to 45 feet (gee, how about maybe 10 feet???). Watch it on YouTube again if you don't remember.

Mick
Donald's fan base wanted Donald. They need to OWN IT. Stop looking for scapegoats, stop pointing at Hillary because you can't defend your Donald.

You own this. Deal with it!

#NeverTrump
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Old 05-05-2016, 12:06 PM
 
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It doesn't seem to bother you that Trump changes positions at the drop of a hat? If he so easily switches positions, how do you know what he will do if elected?
Probably no more than the left justifying Obama not going through the budget, line by line, closing Gitmo, ACA to insure every american, welfare to stimulate rather than jobs etc...
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