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Old 05-11-2016, 04:56 PM
 
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Bernie Sanders Only Cares About Bernie Sanders


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Jon Reinish 3 hrs ago

Each election has what become its accepted narratives: themes that, over time, gel into what are considered reliable facts that are no longer vetted or questioned. As the Democratic campaign finally wraps up, it’s time to put two persistent ones to bed: Hillary Clinton is unpopular and limping to a finish, and Bernie Sanders is a progressive from way outside the system.
Neither could be farther from the truth.

First, let’s set the record straight on West Virginia and Indiana. The only way each state substantively changed the narrative is that Mr. Sanders’ job is that much harder and his odds are that much longer—read: impossible—to actually catch up with Ms. Clinton. There is a huge difference between winning the headline and winning the race. Mr. Sanders has won headlines over the last two weeks. But that’s it, and to pretend otherwise is to traffic fantasy (ahem, Berners).

Ms. Clinton has not just maintained her actual lead, she’s held her competitor to low wins in the mid single digits that ensure that where it matters—which is in the delegate count—his pickups have been minute and do nothing to dent her lead or change the outcome. In order to make any meaningful changes, he needs to win remaining states, including California and New Jersey, by well upwards of 70 percent. And that ain’t gonna happen.

Plus? At face value Indiana and West Virginia should be landslides for Mr. Sanders since they are overwhelmingly white and rural, they’ve been hit hard by the rust belt decay that’s savaged Appalachia, and—bluntly—are chock full of angry working class whites, if you look at reported anecdotal evidence. So what’s with the five-point wins? Why aren’t they 15 and 20 points? That’s my question. It’s a slippery toe-hold at best. Unconvincing.

Second, let’s look at the overall race and break it down by the numbers: Hillary Clinton is ahead of her primary opponent by over three million votes. In the Democratic primary, she’s still ahead by about 300 pledged delegates. America knows her. Which is probably in no small part why she’s so far ahead and why the country is saying a resounding yes to her in such massive numbers.

Call it what you want, but acknowledge she’s ahead.


Bernie Sanders Only Cares About Bernie Sanders
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Old 05-11-2016, 05:01 PM
 
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This dude works for someone who has endorsed Hillary so of course he would dismiss and deride.

Its a miracle he is even in the race at this point. He was mocked a year ago as someone who would struggle to even win his home state of Vermont, let alone any other state in the union. He had zero campaign infrastructure, no money, no name recognition, ignored, ridiculed and dismissed by all big business media outlets right from the start and throughout the whole campaign.

He has done amazingly well and shows how fed up the people are with a rigged economy held up by a corrupt system of campaign finance. Give credit where credit is due.
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Old 05-11-2016, 05:49 PM
 
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With excessive media coverage and no solutions, Sanders did Ok. Sanders did not win one large state, just small ones. No universal appeal.
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Old 05-11-2016, 08:12 PM
 
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He acknowledged she was ahead.

Michigan is the 10th largest state.

Go Bernie!
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Old 05-12-2016, 01:33 AM
 
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With excessive media coverage and no solutions, Sanders did Ok. Sanders did not win one large state, just small ones. No universal appeal.
Huh? He tied in Illinois, and won big in Michigan and Washington. I get that you are probably paid for by Hillary or something like that, but at least try to be somewhat accurate....
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Old 05-12-2016, 04:38 AM
 
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He acknowledged she was ahead.

Michigan is the 10th largest state.

Go Bernie!

New York, Florida, Pennsylvania, Texas, Georgia, California, Illinois and Ohio are larger! Which one of those states I listed did "old man" Bernie win?
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Old 05-12-2016, 04:43 AM
 
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New York, Florida, Pennsylvania, Texas, Georgia, California, Illinois and Ohio are larger! Which one of those states I listed did "old man" Bernie win?
That wasn't the accusation. It's like what Sanders told Andrea Mitchell.

"Do not moan to me about Hillary Clinton’s problems"
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Old 05-12-2016, 04:45 AM
 
Location: Salisbury,NC
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I do not have a problem watching and listening to Bernie. Let him stay in, he has to spend that money people gave him. This way his staff can keep making money on ad buys and salary.
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Old 05-12-2016, 06:06 AM
 
Location: Kansas
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I don't believe for one minute that Sanders only cares about himself. I think Sanders is very patriotic and loves our country. Let's face the fact that Hillary Clinton, if she were what her supporters think she is, would have blown Sanders out of the water in every state. She didn't do that.

I heard this morning that if Hillary is indicted (fingers crossed that the right thing is done) that they will probably draft groping little girls and women Johnny come lately, Joe Biden. The Dem Party deserves their upcoming loss for screwing around the way they have.
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Old 05-12-2016, 06:26 AM
 
Location: Long Island, NY
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Bernie Sanders Only Cares About Bernie Sanders


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Jon Reinish 3 hrs ago
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The Observer is owned by Jared Corey Kushner, who is also the principal owner of the real estate holding and development company Kushner Properties and is married to Ivanka Trump -- making Donald Trump the owner of The Observer's father-in-law.

Do you really think The Observer is an unbiased source?
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