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Old 05-16-2016, 09:00 AM
 
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Perhaps people simply don't care if he gave an interview pretending to be someone else (or just think it's funny...especially considering he seemingly didn't even attempt to alter his voice)? We can debate why they should seriously be concerned until the cows come home, but that's unlikely to change anything.

If Trump wants to use this as free media attention for whatever reasons - maybe that's good business sense.
See below for why people care. Had he admitted to it this week - no one would care. But when presented with a tape of what is CLEARLY his own voice AND knowing that he previously admitted to it on the record - Trump chose to lie to your face.

So - that should be concerning to his supporters.

Then again, the fact that there will be no wall and no Muslim ban and that he is NOT self-funding his campaign don't appear to be a concern to his supporters so there's that.

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With all the focus on trying to make this about everyone's alleged interest in trump's love life, let us not lose sight of the aspects of this story that are actually troubling... that someone 1. would call media outlets repeatedly and pretend he was someone else in order to talk about things himself, especially things that normal people don't discuss in public: 2. would adamantly lie about having done it even with easily discover-able evidence that he did do it: 3. would apparently release the information to deflect attention away from his other current troubles so that he could dominate the news cycle yet again.

That so many people feel that there isn't something really wrong with what he did...
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Old 05-16-2016, 09:05 AM
 
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With all the focus on trying to make this about everyone's alleged interest in trump's love life, let us not lose sight of the aspects of this story that are actually troubling... that someone 1. would call media outlets repeatedly and pretend he was someone else in order to talk about things himself, especially things that normal people don't discuss in public: 2. would adamantly lie about having done it even with easily discover-able evidence that he did do it: 3. would apparently release the information to deflect attention away from his other current troubles so that he could dominate the news cycle yet again.

That so many people feel that there isn't something really wrong with what he did...
This is funny. People like you voted for Obama although he launched his campaign in the living room of a domestic terrorist who also ghost wrote hos book. Obama denied ALL of that when it was known he was lying through his teeth and he still got voted in by people like yourself. What Trump did here is nothing, not even close to what Obama has done throughout his life by being a racist communist and radical Islamist sympathizer. Who cares about this nonsense Trump did, it's funny more than anything.
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Old 05-16-2016, 09:15 AM
 
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This is funny. People like you voted for Obama although he launched his campaign in the living room of a domestic terrorist who also ghost wrote hos book. Obama denied ALL of that when it was known he was lying through his teeth and he still got voted in by people like yourself. What Trump did here is nothing, not even close to what Obama has done throughout his life by being a racist communist and radical Islamist sympathizer. Who cares about this nonsense Trump did, it's funny more than anything.
You truly don't understand opinion and fact. Trump admitted, under oath, that he used those aliases. You can read the transcript for yourself. This would be a FACT. Your Muslim attacks at Obama are OPINION. Obama has stated many times he is not Muslim, but your OPINION is he is lying. Additionally, you tried the domestic terrorist route before too. It was exhausted with no real evidence, but your Fox news OPINION is it really happened. With some effort, you should be able to distinguish between the fact and opinion. Give it a try.
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Old 05-16-2016, 10:45 AM
 
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This is funny. People like you voted for Obama although he launched his campaign in the living room of a domestic terrorist who also ghost wrote hos book. Obama denied ALL of that when it was known he was lying through his teeth and he still got voted in by people like yourself. What Trump did here is nothing, not even close to what Obama has done throughout his life by being a racist communist and radical Islamist sympathizer. Who cares about this nonsense Trump did, it's funny more than anything.
Let's see here....

- Making unbased allegation. Check.
- Presenting fiction as fact. Check.
- Laughing off a serious incident from a Republican politician. Check.
- Sounding crazy and lunatic. Check.

Bravo. Well done sir, you are doing a fine job at being a conservative.
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Old 05-16-2016, 11:05 AM
 
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Let's see here....

- Making unbased allegation. Check.
- Presenting fiction as fact. Check.
- Laughing off a serious incident from a Republican politician. Check.
- Sounding crazy and lunatic. Check.

Bravo. Well done sir, you are doing a fine job at being a conservative.
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Definitely a candidate for the Sunday morning 'talking points' news shows. One would think that regurgitation would get uncomfortable after a while...
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Old 05-16-2016, 11:37 AM
 
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See below for why people care. Had he admitted to it this week - no one would care. But when presented with a tape of what is CLEARLY his own voice AND knowing that he previously admitted to it on the record - Trump chose to lie to your face.
As I said, we can debate why people should or should not care until the cows come home, but that doesn't mean they DO care. Last I heard, 3-4 recent polls have Trump pulling closer than he's ever been.
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Old 05-17-2016, 12:25 AM
 
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This is funny. People like you voted for Obama although he launched his campaign in the living room of a domestic terrorist who also ghost wrote hos book. Obama denied ALL of that when it was known he was lying through his teeth and he still got voted in by people like yourself. What Trump did here is nothing, not even close to what Obama has done throughout his life by being a racist communist and radical Islamist sympathizer. Who cares about this nonsense Trump did, it's funny more than anything.
Well said!

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You truly don't understand opinion and fact. Trump admitted, under oath, that he used those aliases. You can read the transcript for yourself. This would be a FACT. Your Muslim attacks at Obama are OPINION. Obama has stated many times he is not Muslim, but your OPINION is he is lying. Additionally, you tried the domestic terrorist route before too. It was exhausted with no real evidence, but your Fox news OPINION is it really happened. With some effort, you should be able to distinguish between the fact and opinion. Give it a try.
Fact: the MIT professor who advised Obama on Obamacare said that the American people were stupid and that the way Obamacare was presented to them by Obama and his administration was false.

Fact: Obama lied when he said, "If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. If you like your health plan, you can keep your health plan. I guarantee it."

Fact: Obama lied when he said, more than 10 days after his administration knew otherwise, that the Benghazi attack was caused by a video.

Fact: Hillary lied to the families of the Benghazi victims when she told them that the attack was caused by a video. She is on record as having told the prime minister of Egypt that it had nothing to do with a video, and she told him that before she saw the families.

Fact: Later, when Hillary was called out on her lie by a member of one of the families of the Benghazi victims, she accused that family member of lying. Just like she accused the women abused by her husband of lying.

Fact: Obama himself said he is a Muslim. It's in a video that you can easily find where he refers to "my Muslim faith."

Fact: Right after the beheading on video of an American by ISIS, Obama interrupted his golf game for five minutes to make a speech, and then went right back to playing golf with a big smile on his face.

Fact: Right after ISIS committed another atrocity, Obama attacked Christians, referring to the Crusades and the Inquisition.

Fact: When a black Harvard professor was arrested by the Cambridge police, Obama accused the police of "acting stupidly" even while he admitted that he didn't know what had happened.

Fact: Obama was a Marxist in college.

Fact: Obama was a druggy and a slacker in high school by his own admission.

Fact: Obama refused to leave a residual force in Iraq, which has now been taken over by ISIS and Iran.

Fact: Obama refused to follow up in Libya after helping to get rid of Khadaffi. Now Libya is a failed state overrun by ISIS.

Fact: Obama strongly supported Morsi in Egypt, a member of the Muslim brotherhood who called Jews "the descendants of apes and pigs."

Fact: Obama declared that his administration would have no lobbyists. It has had 70 lobbyists so far. Another lie by Obama.

Fact: Obama declared that his administration would be the most transparent ever. According to the New York Times, it has been the least transparent. Another lie by Obama.

Fact: Obama promised that major legislation proposed by him and the Democrats would be debated openly on C-Span and that the full text of the bills would be made public at least a week before any vote was taken. That was a lie. The truth was inadvertently told by Nancy Pelosi when she said, "We need to vote for the bill before we can see what's in it."

Fact: Obama was -- and probably still is -- a friend to the terrorists Bill Ayers and Bernadine Dohrn. There is no doubt about that whatsoever.

Obama -- liar, fraud, racist, Muslim, communist, terrorist.

And you libs voted for him.

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Old 05-17-2016, 12:37 AM
 
Location: Stasis
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With all the focus on trying to make this about everyone's alleged interest in trump's love life, let us not lose sight of the aspects of this story that are actually troubling... that someone 1. would call media outlets repeatedly and pretend he was someone else in order to talk about things himself, especially things that normal people don't discuss in public: 2. would adamantly lie about having done it even with easily discover-able evidence that he did do it: 3. would apparently release the information to deflect attention away from his other current troubles so that he could dominate the news cycle yet again.

That so many people feel that there isn't something really wrong with what he did...
It's not just harmless "entertainment" news. In the Polish worker's lawsuit he admits to calling their lawyer and threatening them using the name "John Barron" and admits to using that 3rd party persona regularly in business dealings.
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Old 05-17-2016, 12:51 AM
 
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My father had a "lawyer doll" that you could squeeze and it would shout "I'll sue you!" "Liar" I'll see you in court" and various obscenities.

For fun, he would talk to friends and associates on the phone and squeeze the doll.

Then he would pretend to not hear the voice that the people he was talking to were hearing.

Juvenile? Sure. But it was fun.

When I think of some of the prank calls we made as kids and in college...
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Old 05-17-2016, 12:52 AM
 
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It's not just harmless "entertainment" news. In the Polish worker's lawsuit he admits to calling their lawyer and threatening them using the name "John Barron" and admits to using that 3rd party persona regularly in business dealings.
Yeah, the world ends over stuff like this...

I guess liberals never read Perry Mason books.

They're full of such tricks.
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