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Old 05-15-2016, 07:00 AM
 
Location: Denver CO
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Unfortunately it was no mistake my neighbor observed that they were not asking for or properly checking any kind of identification of those that came to vote.

I have watched this election with fascination ever since the predictions that Bernie would win. I still hope he somehow does.
Just because ID isn't checked doesn't mean someone not properly registered as a Dem got to vote. The states I have voted in do not have Voter ID laws, but they do have a list of registered voters, and for primaries, they have them listed by party. They check off your name, and if someone is an Ind. and not a registered Dem, they would not have been given a ballot (or in my state, permitted to participate in the caucus).
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Old 05-15-2016, 07:25 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
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Yeah, he has been dead on every other election but the one time he misses it *Which everyone else did as well* he isn't accurate . Nobody expected Trump to win because this election has defied standard practices. You never have people hanging in well past when they should drop out, when it's obvious to the blind that they can't win. Typically, if you don't win in the first few primaries you drop out. However, in this one you had Carson in until the end of Super Tuesday, Rubio hanging in until 36 contests had past, and Kasich chugging along even though he won a total of one state. So I think we can cut the pundits some slack on this one.
Oh no, I'm not cutting them slack on anything. They were wrong on just about everything for almost a year. Even when their lyin' eyes saw the big crowds Trump and Sanders were getting, they continued to pooh-pooh the two men. Observation is an important part of making predictions. They were inflexible because they didn't want it to be true. These are the same type of guys who don't see a recession or a terrorist attack coming.
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Old 05-15-2016, 07:46 AM
 
Location: Center City, Philadelphia
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Yes. It will be glorious! Just look at what's going on in Venezuela.

Feel the Bern baby!
I didn't vote for Bernie, but I don't see why moving the fiscal needle back towards the left a bit is a terrible thing. I don't believe that Socialism is better than Capitalism, quite the contrary. I do think the Government can spend more in certain places, cut in other places, and collect a bit more from some people. That is why I am voting for Clinton.
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Old 05-15-2016, 07:56 AM
 
Location: North America
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Oh no, I'm not cutting them slack on anything. They were wrong on just about everything for almost a year. Even when their lyin' eyes saw the big crowds Trump and Sanders were getting, they continued to pooh-pooh the two men. Observation is an important part of making predictions. They were inflexible because they didn't want it to be true. These are the same type of guys who don't see a recession or a terrorist attack coming.
He has a 91 percent rating calling these elections correctly. That's hardly all wrong. Crowds don't translate into success is the issue. Like most supporters of these two men you are missing the point. Sanders is behind by 3.1 million votes and Trump would have never won had the field not been crowded. In a NORMAL election their calls would have been dead on. Trump would have been eliminated by Super Tuesday and Sanders would have dropped out already.
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Old 05-15-2016, 07:59 AM
 
Location: North America
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I didn't vote for Bernie, but I don't see why moving the fiscal needle back towards the left a bit is a terrible thing. I don't believe that Socialism is better than Capitalism, quite the contrary. I do think the Government can spend more in certain places, cut in other places, and collect a bit more from some people. That is why I am voting for Clinton.
The poster is being sarcastic.
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Old 05-15-2016, 08:10 AM
 
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Wonder how the Election would of been like with Sanders starting as an Independent would he have gathered as much support as he does now.
This is something that people don't understand. A third party run is fools errand, it is simply impossible to mount a third party campaign from the beginning, you don't have the needed machinery and infrastructure to compete with either party. The system is rigged in this sense, the rules are designed for a two party system, all the boxes you have to check, you need a huge organization the only way to streamline the process is to get Congress approval and Congress is made up 98% of r's and d's so good luck with that.
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Old 05-15-2016, 08:37 AM
 
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They have sore loser laws for some States and certain dates to be on the ballot. Curious how this works...if Independents don't pick a Candiate till late July/Early August, but are still eligible to be on all 50 ballots. Does the party buy the slot on the ballot then come August put there candiates name on the ballot?

If that's the case couldn't Sanders join a Party?
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Old 05-15-2016, 08:41 AM
 
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What happened in Nevada should make it clear by now to the Bernie voter, that the Democrat Party Elite have clearly rigged the entire process for Hillary Clinton. What happened there makes Ted Cruz look honest.
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Old 05-15-2016, 08:56 AM
 
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I didn't vote for Bernie, but I don't see why moving the fiscal needle back towards the left a bit is a terrible thing. I don't believe that Socialism is better than Capitalism, quite the contrary. I do think the Government can spend more in certain places, cut in other places, and collect a bit more from some people. That is why I am voting for Clinton.
Only reason I can only vote for Sanders even though the needle is too the Left is because he is a candiate for the people. Healthcare is a mess in the U.S. states cut funding to hospitals due to Medicare. Senior citizens can't see the Doctor, can't fill scripts, and have gap insurance due to underfunded Medicaid. Insurance companies control healthcare and what treatment/care you can receive.

K to 12 Education has been destroyed due to Common Core and Standardized test. School's need to be better funded and able to compete with the World.

We need to support our men and women in the Military. Also our Veterans better. We need to focus less on policing the world and make countries most sustainable to protect themselves. Need to utilize work with UN and other nations it's not our world alone.

We have children who are starving in our country. We need to fix the growing number of those in poverty. We need to shrink the gap between the rich and poor. We need to regrow the middle class.

We need to fix cost of homes, fix the way individuals are financed, hold banks more responsible in their financial behavior, need to regulate banks, and so forth.

Need living wage and a work force that can balance time with families. We need to get people away from the 60 hour work week just to raise a family. Need to respect the important time parents need to help their child develop their first year of birth. Mother's need a year maternity leave. Husband's 3 months.

We need to cap how long people are on welfare, regulate welfare, require those on welfare to work, and drug test welfare.

We need to clean up disability and do away with any fraud.

Need to increase unemployment another 8 month's.

Need to grow our own food. Grow clean food and more naturally using less hormones or animals in poor conditions.

We need to export more and import less. We need an economy more sustainable.

We need a country that can compete with the world scientifically. Need to continue to fund and grow our research in our Country.

Need to find new green safer energt that is better for the environment. Energy sources to make our energy self sustainable.

Need to fix immigration. Work with bodering nations. Need to give amnesty to current illegals if can pass background checks and pass citizenship. We need to stop funding sanctuary cities. We can't break up families.

Need to fix the Visa system in the US.

Need to provide free higher public education to American citizens and students from abroad. Need to stop funding private colleges.

Need to provide free Universal Healthcare to citizens of the US.

Need to set up a Mental Health and Addiction services. Better fund mental health and addiction.

Need a country wide goal to end shelter homeless.

Need to restart the Conservation Corp and fix America's infrastructure.

We need to expand and protect America's land.

Need to regulate pharmaceuticals, OSHA, and EPA more.

Need to reform criminal justice system, encourage hiring for ex offenders, and legalize marijuana.

Need to eliminate affirmitive action in the work place, and equal pay for all.

Need to support LGBT.

Church and State need to be seperate.

Need to stop PCC. Say what's on your mind.

Support our police.

Make voting easy. Voting can be done Friday through Saturday.
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Old 05-15-2016, 09:14 AM
 
Location: Londonderry, NH
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RunD1987 - Thank you for posting an excellent summary of the problems facing our country. Hillary and or Sanders would try to fix them. Trump and most of the rest of the conservative greed party would just continue to ignore them.
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