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Old 05-15-2016, 10:39 AM
 
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Latinos support Trump, not Hillary. Furthermore if Hillary can't attract the White working class in NC & Fla, she is sunk. I'm calling it even in VA mostly due to NOVA and the federal workers there.

Her cavalier attitude to putting 10s of 1000s of workers, out of work, is severely hurting here in these states.
Yeah, and exactly what proof do you have the Latinos support Trump over her? Obama didn't win the white working class in NC and he won. I think you might want to rethink your statement there.
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Old 05-15-2016, 10:40 AM
 
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Yeah, and exactly what proof do you have the Latinos support Trump over her?
Be glad to show you.

http://www.city-data.com/forum/44048230-post179.html
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Old 05-15-2016, 10:41 AM
 
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By minority vote you mean the African American vote. Here's where you meme fails. The president isn't elected by the popular vote. The president is elected by the electoral college. It just so happens that most of the African American's in the USA live in states that will easily go Red anyway.

It's the the working class that decides the election. No president can win without this vote. It was true for Bush, it was true for Obama. They have abandoned the Democrats by wide margin and this is why Hillary is facing landslide losses.
Read the stats in the article quote that I posted above. The "working class" is increasingly less white. Your statement would have been more apropos in 1980 than it is today. The white non-college voter has less impact with each presidential election, because they represent a diminishing share of the electorate.

Once again, if the electorate in 2016 meets current projections and minority (meaning blacks, Hispanics, Asians, Other) voters continue to vote Democratic by a 4-1 rate, Trump will need 65% of the non-Hispanic white vote to win the national popular vote. Only Reagan in 1984 has come close to that (since exit poll data has been available). We don't elect Presidents by popular vote, but the times that the popular vote and the electoral college don't mirror each other are exceedingly rare. In most cases, the electoral college has disproportionally tilted to the winner of the popular vote.

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Old 05-15-2016, 10:43 AM
 
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Read the stats in the article quote that I posted above.
You previously said that going to college turns one into a Democrat and gave stats that "prove it". You wish to define 2016 based on elections of the past. The problem with this approach is that it assumes that current events and changes in society don't affect elections. This of course is nonsense. 2016 proves it.

Furthermore you assume that people are incapable of thinking beyond their skin color, background, ethnic heritage, etc. That too is wrong. Take note that I said working class. Not White working class.
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Old 05-15-2016, 10:43 AM
 
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That's what I hear too.

The choice we have is between Hellary the globalist and Trump the put Americans first guy.

You either want to be a globalist and descend into poverty as a world citizen or like being an American citizen and want to continue as the founders intended. An independent sovereign nation. That's why they called it the "United States of America" and not the "Just Another State of the World".

That's the real issue being put to the voters.

"GO TRUMP" Reject the globalist agenda to make America a 3rd world dump.
Hellary?!?! That is even better than Hilliary. Hellary is so simple, eloquent and accurate.
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Old 05-15-2016, 10:44 AM
 
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LOL, you are joking right? Gravis is about as inaccurate of a pollster as you get. You might as well consider ARG polls while you are at it.
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Old 05-15-2016, 10:48 AM
 
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LOL, you are joking right? Gravis is about as inaccurate of a pollster as you get. You might as well consider ARG polls while you are at it.
Dear. It proves you wrong. You wish to make assertion that all Hispanics are exactly alike and vote the same way. You are wrong. They come from 23 different countries and once assiminated into the USA, especially by the 2nd and 3rd generation, they vote pretty much like the race they identify with. In this case, mostly White.
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Old 05-15-2016, 10:52 AM
 
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But lets talk about Florida since you raise it.

Florida Primary Turnout
  • Republican - 2,361,805
  • Democrat - 1,709,183
Hillary will be devastated by Trump in Florida. This is a state that has been hit hard by outsourcing and illegal immigration.
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Old 05-15-2016, 10:54 AM
 
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Get a more reliable source.

The Worst Poll in America: Gravis Marketing is in the lead for the Strategic Vision Award for Botched Polling.
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Old 05-15-2016, 10:56 AM
 
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Get a more reliable source.
That was a nonsense side issue raised which doesn't address the actual topic. Get back to me when you can prove what I have said is wrong.

Millions of Democrats, who voted for Obama, will be voting for Trump instead of Hillary.
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