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Old 05-17-2016, 08:56 PM
 
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Yes it would be better. But when you don't have that as an option, you start considering other factors.
Like third party?

 
Old 05-17-2016, 09:10 PM
 
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Like third party?
Yep, that is certainly something to consider.
 
Old 05-17-2016, 09:17 PM
 
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Do you realize that most of our greatest presidents were either lawyers or went to law school? The list includes: John Adams; Thomas Jefferson; James Madison; James Monroe; John Quincy Adams; Andrew Jackson; Martin Van Buren; John Tyler; James K. Polk; Millard Fillmore; James Buchanan; Abraham Lincoln; James A. Garfield; Grover Cleveland; Benjamin Harrison; Calvin Coolidge; William McKinley; Theodore Roosevelt; Franklin D. Roosevelt; Richard Nixon; Lyndon Johnson; Rutherford Hayes; Barack Obama; Gerald Ford; Franklin Pierce; Chester Arthur; William Howard Taft; Harry Truman; Woodrow Wilson; and Bill Clinton.

Only two have attended Business School: JFK and George W. Bush. (Did you consider George W. Bush to be a good president? I certainly didn't)

The problem with Presidents who aren't lawyers and don't have law degrees is that they don't really seem to understand the Constitution. Trump seems to think the Constitution will make him King.
So...someone who isn't a lawyer could never understand the Constitution? Oh, puleez! BTW, Harry Truman didn't even go to college, yet he somehow managed to handle the job of president. Did you know this about Truman? You included him in your list. He wasn't a lawyer---he was a haberdasher.
 
Old 05-17-2016, 09:41 PM
 
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Do you realize that most of our greatest presidents were either lawyers or went to law school? The list includes: John Adams; Thomas Jefferson; James Madison; James Monroe; John Quincy Adams; Andrew Jackson; Martin Van Buren; John Tyler; James K. Polk; Millard Fillmore; James Buchanan; Abraham Lincoln; James A. Garfield; Grover Cleveland; Benjamin Harrison; Calvin Coolidge; William McKinley; Theodore Roosevelt; Franklin D. Roosevelt; Richard Nixon; Lyndon Johnson; Rutherford Hayes; Barack Obama; Gerald Ford; Franklin Pierce; Chester Arthur; William Howard Taft; Harry Truman; Woodrow Wilson; and Bill Clinton.

Only two have attended Business School: JFK and George W. Bush. (Did you consider George W. Bush to be a good president? I certainly didn't)

The problem with Presidents who aren't lawyers and don't have law degrees is that they don't really seem to understand the Constitution. Trump seems to think the Constitution will make him King.
I heard the repeated cliché that law school teaches you to “think like a lawyer.” To “think like a lawyer” means to base your thinking on precedent and history. Ideas and customs are presumptively good because they exist; the longer it’s been that way, the harder it is to change. As a profession, they're bad at deviating from the course because they're trained to do precisely the opposite.

So you want more of the same?
 
Old 05-17-2016, 10:01 PM
 
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So...someone who isn't a lawyer could never understand the Constitution? Oh, puleez! BTW, Harry Truman didn't even go to college, yet he somehow managed to handle the job of president. Did you know this about Truman? You included him in your list. He wasn't a lawyer---he was a haberdasher.
Truman attended the University of Kansas City School of Law but withdrew.
 
Old 05-17-2016, 10:03 PM
 
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I heard the repeated cliché that law school teaches you to “think like a lawyer.” To “think like a lawyer” means to base your thinking on precedent and history. Ideas and customs are presumptively good because they exist; the longer it’s been that way, the harder it is to change. As a profession, they're bad at deviating from the course because they're trained to do precisely the opposite.

So you want more of the same?
Would I like more Abraham Lincolns, Thomas Jeffersons and FDRs? Yes, please.

Do you want more George W. Bushes -- because he's the one who graduated from Business School (like Trump).
 
Old 05-18-2016, 12:04 AM
 
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You could say that we could have a mentally handicapped person as POTUS and that would be uplifting for children to see that even people with disabilities can be leaders. I know, I know, we already had Duhbya Bush and Obama, but they're not technically mentally challenged.
 
Old 05-18-2016, 01:17 AM
 
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You could say that we could have a mentally handicapped person as POTUS and that would be uplifting for children to see that even people with disabilities can be leaders. I know, I know, we already had Duhbya Bush and Obama, but they're not technically mentally challenged.
Sadly Dan Quayle as VP is the closest we are going to get to a mentally handicapped President.
 
Old 05-18-2016, 01:43 AM
 
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Do you realize that most of our greatest presidents were either lawyers or went to law school? The list includes: John Adams; Thomas Jefferson; James Madison; James Monroe; John Quincy Adams; Andrew Jackson; Martin Van Buren; John Tyler; James K. Polk; Millard Fillmore; James Buchanan; Abraham Lincoln; James A. Garfield; Grover Cleveland; Benjamin Harrison; Calvin Coolidge; William McKinley; Theodore Roosevelt; Franklin D. Roosevelt; Richard Nixon; Lyndon Johnson; Rutherford Hayes; Barack Obama; Gerald Ford; Franklin Pierce; Chester Arthur; William Howard Taft; Harry Truman; Woodrow Wilson; and Bill Clinton.

Only two have attended Business School: JFK and George W. Bush. (Did you consider George W. Bush to be a good president? I certainly didn't)

The problem with Presidents who aren't lawyers and don't have law degrees is that they don't really seem to understand the Constitution. Trump seems to think the Constitution will make him King.
And Obama specialized in Constitutional law and look where that got us! He's pretty much used it as toilet paper.
 
Old 05-18-2016, 07:53 AM
 
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Think Tulsi Gabbard will be the first women President in 2020
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