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Old 05-19-2016, 08:08 AM
 
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Right....you believe in the one that will do the opposite and those who understand that are no longer going to accept lip service.

The protesters were right in 1968 and will be again.

So you have no problem with their violent, destructive tactics and behavior?
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Old 05-19-2016, 08:44 AM
 
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So you have no problem with their violent, destructive tactics and behavior?
That's a very broad question as I hope no one gets hurt but if it takes overturning some carts to be heard, yes I support that.

I'm hoping to go to Cleveland to photograph the going on's around the convention but unfortunately I won't be able to go to Philly and it seems that is where the most fun will be.
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Old 05-19-2016, 09:46 AM
 
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Venezuala was a resource rich, somewhat prosperous country before it turned communist, and now that oil is so cheap they can no longer use that money to prop it up. Now all the rich are no more after years of communism, and there is no food for the masses. It's a very sad situation, not comparable to what's going on here.
No, it was not. At the end of the 90s before it turned "communist" (lol) it was an economic basket case run by a corrupt elite of oligarchs with massive poverty and suffering. You need to stop watching and reading whatever you're watching because you are paying to get lied to.
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Old 05-19-2016, 09:51 AM
 
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LOL! Yeah, on paper.

Try talking to someone who actually lived under Socialism (as in Soviet) and ask them how much control they had over the means of productions. They'll laugh in your face.
Exactly. Its like North Korea calling themselves Democratic. So why do you believe they are democratic just because they say so? Workers in the Soviet Union NEVER controlled the means of production so they were of course never socialist.
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Old 05-19-2016, 09:55 AM
 
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So you have no problem with their violent, destructive tactics and behavior?
Where would America be today if Revere and company agreed with you?
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Old 05-19-2016, 09:56 AM
 
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Just have Hillary send in union goons and paid thugs to beat the crap out of the college kids who support Sanders. The DNC has to pound it into these young idealists that there is no room for dissent and everyone must be in lockstep with what the party dictates to them.
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Old 05-19-2016, 10:48 AM
 
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Really? His platform is to the right of the political system in Canada. Is Canada some authoritarian socialist hellhole? Socialism means worker control of the means of production. Not whatever you think it means. What part of Bernie's platform do you feel is totally against your political principles and why?
There is not a single socialist country on the planet where the workers control the means of production. Your definition only exists on paper and in utopia.
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Old 05-19-2016, 10:50 AM
 
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I can't wait
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Old 05-19-2016, 10:57 AM
 
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No, it was not. At the end of the 90s before it turned "communist" (lol) it was an economic basket case run by a corrupt elite of oligarchs with massive poverty and suffering. You need to stop watching and reading whatever you're watching because you are paying to get lied to.
I never said the prosperity went to everyone. It was like all other Latin American countries, where there is rich and poor and no middle class. And I got my information from someone who was born there. I have never read anything about Venezuala. But I have now, and nothing I said was a lie.

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/artic...ichest-economy

What did Chavez do that was any different from the few true communist takeovers in the world? The article calls it more like "Petrolization," but it amounts to the same thing. "Communist" revolutions never work out for the workers as it's supposed to in it's purest form, because human nature is still human nature, and these revolutionaries always look out for number 1.
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Old 05-19-2016, 11:22 AM
 
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That's a very broad question as I hope no one gets hurt but if it takes overturning some carts to be heard, yes I support that.

I'm hoping to go to Cleveland to photograph the going on's around the convention but unfortunately I won't be able to go to Philly and it seems that is where the most fun will be.

So you're OK with property destruction...
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