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Old 05-22-2016, 09:51 AM
 
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Keep making excuses for being wrong.. its so much easier than just understanding why you were wrong so it doesnt happen again.
It's possible he will win. It's just not a great policy to place a lot of faith in mid May polls is all. A lot of things can happen between now and then. You have two very unpopular candidates at this point. I don't think we are going to see a landslide no matter which one comes out on top.
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Old 05-22-2016, 09:52 AM
 
Location: West Texas
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The poll was on the news section of the radio this week - saying why Trump may have problems.
No evidence for politicians having to be for open borders. It will never happen. Without borders, you have no country.
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Old 05-22-2016, 09:56 AM
 
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It's possible he will win. It's just not a great policy to place a lot of faith in mid May polls is all. A lot of things can happen between now and then. You have two very unpopular candidates at this point. I don't think we are going to see a landslide no matter which one comes out on top.
When you see a candidate who was supposedly going to dominate this election, albeit less so than Sanders, falling behind consistently as time rolls on it becomes more and more clear that the annointed one is going to struggle. Moreover, because of the way the DNC has handled this primary it needs to prepare for the legitimate possibility that Trump might be our next president and Hillary isn't going to stop him. In short, they're blowing it.

Sanders is wise to stick around, it's becoming clear that Hillary lacks a message to actually rally around, other than keep things they way they are, which for many isn't good enough.
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Old 05-22-2016, 10:00 AM
 
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No evidence for politicians having to be for open borders. It will never happen. Without borders, you have no country.
We have at least 11 million illegal immigrants that we can't deport, building a wall is seen as racist, and the fastest growing demographic of voters per this poll says essentially wants the border to allow more and more in.

Aren't we already on the road to open borders?
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Old 05-22-2016, 10:00 AM
 
Location: Austin
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"According to the most recent YouGov poll, 61 percent of Sanders voters have an unfavorable view of Clinton, against just 38 percent with a favorable one. YouGov has been tracking these numbers for several months, and they’ve gradually gotten worse for Clinton."

The Hidden Importance Of The Sanders Voter | FiveThirtyEight
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Old 05-22-2016, 10:01 AM
 
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When you see a candidate who was supposedly going to dominate this election, albeit less so than Sanders, falling behind consistently as time rolls on it becomes more and more clear that the annointed one is going to struggle. Moreover, because of the way the DNC has handled this primary it needs to prepare for the legitimate possibility that Trump might be our next president and Hillary isn't going to stop him. In short, they're blowing it.

Sanders is wise to stick around, it's becoming clear that Hillary lacks a message to actually rally around, other than keep things they way they are, which for many isn't good enough.
Anybody who really understands politics should know that she was never going to dominate. This in theory should be an R based year. The clown based GOP primary and Trump being the nominee are the factors that make it more of a tossup. They both have essentially the same weaknesses which limits the effectiveness of any attack against the other. Clinton is weak about white men and Trump is weak among minorities. My feeling is that this will fall to a few key states this year.
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Old 05-22-2016, 10:01 AM
 
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You hit the nail right on the head with that one. Once she wraps the nomination up on the 7th you will begin to see his supporters coalesce around her as well. Then the polls will go back to what they were before he wrapped up the nomination. Doesn't mean she is going to win of course but I wouldn't start saying that polls that have Trump slightly ahead point to him winning the White House either.
He's completely wrong. The RCP polls are based upon a Clinton vs Trump scenario. Sanders, has no input on those polls. The poster is just babbling nonsense as always
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Old 05-22-2016, 10:02 AM
 
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Anybody who really understands politics should know that she was never going to dominate. This in theory should be an R based year. The clown based GOP primary and Trump being the nominee are the factors that make it more of a tossup. They both have essentially the same weaknesses which limits the effectiveness of any attack against the other. Clinton is weak about white men and Trump is weak among minorities. My feeling is that this will fall to a few key states this year.
You could explain it away this way, but her trending down isnt a good sign and anybody who really understands polling knows that.

The DNC needs to seriously consider that, you can't push a candidate from the top down with nothing but platitudes and win an election against a movement. Campaigns have to start at the bottom and build a base.
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Old 05-22-2016, 10:03 AM
 
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"According to the most recent YouGov poll, 61 percent of Sanders voters have an unfavorable view of Clinton, against just 38 percent with a favorable one. YouGov has been tracking these numbers for several months,1 and they’ve gradually gotten worse for Clinton."

The Hidden Importance Of The Sanders Voter | FiveThirtyEight
Well it's going to. A lot of them are disappointed that he has lost when they were sure he would win. After the nomination wraps up in June those numbers will alter some. I doubt either Hillary or Trump will be blowing their parties away in enthusiasm but their favorable numbers were always bound to eventually rebound. His are already starting to do so. Hers will go the same way in a month.
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Old 05-22-2016, 10:03 AM
 
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It's possible he will win. It's just not a great policy to place a lot of faith in mid May polls is all. A lot of things can happen between now and then. You have two very unpopular candidates at this point. I don't think we are going to see a landslide no matter which one comes out on top.
most of sanders supporters hate clinton, its why they support Sanders. Their policies are nothing alike. If they were similar in ideology, I'd agree with you but putting faith in Sanders supporters backing Clinton, is ridiculous. If anything, they will stay home, which is just as bad for her.
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