U.S. CitiesCity-Data Forum Index
Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies > Elections
 [Register]
Please register to participate in our discussions with 2 million other members - it's free and quick! Some forums can only be seen by registered members. After you create your account, you'll be able to customize options and access all our 15,000 new posts/day with fewer ads.
View detailed profile (Advanced) or search
site with Google Custom Search

Search Forums  (Advanced)
Reply Start New Thread
 
Old 05-22-2016, 11:54 PM
 
3,932 posts, read 7,520,553 times
Reputation: 4421

Advertisements

"Lesser of two evils . . . "
"We need another option . . . "
"Both parties are corrupt . . ."
"We want an outsider to take down the establishment . . ."

Some prefer experience. Clinton has taken all the "right" career steps, but people don't trust her. (That's covered in other threads, so I'll leave it at that.) Is this the best the D's have to offer?

Other people prefer the wealthy authoritarian. "He doesn't owe anyone," they say. "He's strong and will get things done." (But oh, the things he wants to do!) Is this the best the R's can come up with?


How about this for an ideal ticket:
Experience: Two former governors. Each two terms. Both considered very successful.
Independence
: Neither of them owes anything to either major party.

And that's what the Libertarians have to offer this time.

Given the qualifications and lack of scandal, why do they not get more attention? Well, they won't get many endorsements from big-name R's and D's, even from those unhappy with their party's choice, because most career politicians will not be brave enough to risk their political careers by supporting someone outside the party.

I'm hoping that some will be so bold and will put the country's best interests above their own careers.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message

 
Old 05-23-2016, 12:03 AM
 
Location: Beautiful Upstate NY!
13,819 posts, read 25,171,492 times
Reputation: 7615
Go Trump!
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-23-2016, 09:01 AM
 
1,100 posts, read 479,101 times
Reputation: 333
Quote:
Originally Posted by sll3454 View Post
"Lesser of two evils . . . "
"We need another option . . . "
"Both parties are corrupt . . ."
"We want an outsider to take down the establishment . . ."

Some prefer experience. Clinton has taken all the "right" career steps, but people don't trust her. (That's covered in other threads, so I'll leave it at that.) Is this the best the D's have to offer?

Other people prefer the wealthy authoritarian. "He doesn't owe anyone," they say. "He's strong and will get things done." (But oh, the things he wants to do!) Is this the best the R's can come up with?


How about this for an ideal ticket:
Experience: Two former governors. Each two terms. Both considered very successful.
Independence
: Neither of them owes anything to either major party.

And that's what the Libertarians have to offer this time.

Given the qualifications and lack of scandal, why do they not get more attention? Well, they won't get many endorsements from big-name R's and D's, even from those unhappy with their party's choice, because most career politicians will not be brave enough to risk their political careers by supporting someone outside the party.

I'm hoping that some will be so bold and will put the country's best interests above their own careers.
A lot of the die hard establishment supporters are to entrenched in their own political ideologies to consider anything that's not similar to their own.

Hopefully the majority of independents will take a closer look at the third party option this year.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-23-2016, 09:52 AM
 
26,635 posts, read 9,061,236 times
Reputation: 9277
Looks like a good fit for Bernie's supporters if/when he gives in/or is defeated.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-23-2016, 10:02 AM
 
Location: Tennessee
34,682 posts, read 33,681,492 times
Reputation: 51877
Isn't the Libertarian a doper?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-23-2016, 10:10 AM
 
Location: North America
14,210 posts, read 10,106,013 times
Reputation: 5547
~yawns~
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-23-2016, 10:26 AM
 
Location: Center City, Philadelphia
4,633 posts, read 2,782,117 times
Reputation: 2981
Quote:
Originally Posted by phma View Post
Looks like a good fit for Bernie's supporters if/when he gives in/or is defeated.
Yes sanders supporters love the trade agreements too! /s
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-23-2016, 10:43 AM
 
Location: Chicago Area
8,036 posts, read 4,199,828 times
Reputation: 3039
Just to clarify for those who didn't already know, the presumptive Libertarian nominee Gary Johnson -- former governor of New Mexico -- just recently announced that William Weld -- former governor of Massachusetts -- would be his running mate. Both men were extremely popular governors, winning re-election by huge margins. Both are true Libertarians. They are both socially liberal and fiscally conservative.

It's what America really needs right now.
  • Stopping government from trying to run our lives for us.
  • Stopping the government from spending like a bunch of idiots.

Now if Johnson can break the glass ceiling and get into the general election debates, he's got a very real chance of winning. At minimum, Johnson and Weld will make it very clear that Americans don't have to choose "the lesser of two evils" or "hold you nose and pull the lever." Even if the LP isn't your third party, it raises awareness that you don't have to just blindly vote D or R. You've got other options.
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-23-2016, 10:58 AM
 
Location: On a Long Island in NY
7,682 posts, read 8,484,316 times
Reputation: 7034
Quote:
Originally Posted by godofthunder9010 View Post
Just to clarify for those who didn't already know, the presumptive Libertarian nominee Gary Johnson -- former governor of New Mexico -- just recently announced that William Weld -- former governor of Massachusetts -- would be his running mate. Both men were extremely popular governors, winning re-election by huge margins. Both are true Libertarians. They are both socially liberal and fiscally conservative.

It's what America really needs right now.
  • Stopping government from trying to run our lives for us.
  • Stopping the government from spending like a bunch of idiots.

Now if Johnson can break the glass ceiling and get into the general election debates, he's got a very real chance of winning. At minimum, Johnson and Weld will make it very clear that Americans don't have to choose "the lesser of two evils" or "hold you nose and pull the lever." Even if the LP isn't your third party, it raises awareness that you don't have to just blindly vote D or R. You've got other options.
I couldent have said it better, I think the Libertarian Party is a little too isolationist and behind the times on foreign policy but I strongly agree with their fiscally conservative/socially moderate domestic policy.

Johnson/Weld '16 - the common sense ticket
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
 
Old 05-23-2016, 11:48 AM
 
Location: 500 miles from home
30,013 posts, read 16,597,455 times
Reputation: 22589
Quote:
Originally Posted by sll3454 View Post
"Lesser of two evils . . . "
"We need another option . . . "
"Both parties are corrupt . . ."
"We want an outsider to take down the establishment . . ."

Some prefer experience. Clinton has taken all the "right" career steps, but people don't trust her. (That's covered in other threads, so I'll leave it at that.) Is this the best the D's have to offer?

Other people prefer the wealthy authoritarian. "He doesn't owe anyone," they say. "He's strong and will get things done." (But oh, the things he wants to do!) Is this the best the R's can come up with?


How about this for an ideal ticket:
Experience: Two former governors. Each two terms. Both considered very successful.
Independence
: Neither of them owes anything to either major party.

And that's what the Libertarians have to offer this time.

Given the qualifications and lack of scandal, why do they not get more attention? Well, they won't get many endorsements from big-name R's and D's, even from those unhappy with their party's choice, because most career politicians will not be brave enough to risk their political careers by supporting someone outside the party.

I'm hoping that some will be so bold and will put the country's best interests above their own careers.
The liberterian position is just 'too far out there' for most people. No public lands? Private charities to solve the hunger problem?

Hope.

Quote:
Originally Posted by thedirtypirate View Post
Yes sanders supporters love the trade agreements too! /s
Really?
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Please register to post and access all features of our very popular forum. It is free and quick. Over $68,000 in prizes has already been given out to active posters on our forum. Additional giveaways are planned.

Detailed information about all U.S. cities, counties, and zip codes on our site: City-data.com.


Reply
Please update this thread with any new information or opinions. This open thread is still read by thousands of people, so we encourage all additional points of view.

Quick Reply
Message:

Over $104,000 in prizes was already given out to active posters on our forum and additional giveaways are planned!

Go Back   City-Data Forum > General Forums > Politics and Other Controversies > Elections
Similar Threads
Follow City-Data.com founder on our Forum or

All times are GMT -6.

2005-2019, Advameg, Inc. · Please obey Forum Rules · Terms of Use and Privacy Policy · Bug Bounty

City-Data.com - Archive 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 30, 31, 32, 33, 34, 35 - Top