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Old 05-26-2016, 11:11 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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Have you ever heard of SCA5? Do you know most Asian Americans are against it?
And that doesn't necessarily translate into support for Trump.

This Chinese American certainly won't.

I am turned off by his cheap tendency to scapegoat and stereotype certain ethnic groups for any perceived social and political problems in this country. Just as it's easy to slam Latinos and Muslims now, it's not a stretch to see how he'll turn on Asians for issues such as high real estate prices, trade issues, or selling trade secrets overseas, for cheap political points.

Think of Vincent Chin, 1983.
Or Wen Ho Lee, 1998.
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Old 05-26-2016, 11:20 PM
 
Location: La lune et les étoiles
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In the 2012 presidential election, Barack Obama won 73 percent of the Asian American vote, exceeding his support among Hispanics (71 percent) and women (55 percent).


Between 2008 and 2012, Asians surpassed Latinos as the most quickly growing immigrant group, and, like Latinos, they voted for Obama


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...for-democrats/
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Old 05-26-2016, 11:23 PM
 
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I find Chinese Americans very interesting.


While most don't vote in the Presidential election, I think they are more likely to vote in city and county elections(compared to white Americans). In my local area, the Chinese Americans are really active in city politics. County as well, state not so much but I think my state is the first maybe only state to have a Chinese American Governor.


They tend to be Democratic by a huge margin, my guess is 3/4 are Democrats. BUT most of them are fiscally conservative and for traditional marriage. Many always complain about the over spending by local government and they know the details. Traditional marriage for most Chinese Americans is something they won't budge on. I always wondered what are the main reasons for them to be Democrats, I have not found a overly common theme among them.


Those that like the Communist Party are Democrat supporters, yes there are Chinese Americans who openly support the Chinese Communist Party, it is really strange.
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Old 05-26-2016, 11:24 PM
 
Location: La lune et les étoiles
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Old 05-26-2016, 11:36 PM
 
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And that doesn't necessarily translate into support for Trump.

This Chinese American certainly won't.

I am turned off by his cheap tendency to scapegoat and stereotype certain ethnic groups for any perceived social and political problems in this country. Just as it's easy to slam Latinos and Muslims now, it's not a stretch to see how he'll turn on Asians for issues such as high real estate prices, trade issues, or selling trade secrets overseas, for cheap political points.

Think of Vincent Chin, 1983.
Or Wen Ho Lee, 1998.
I posted a photo, that shows yes.
American politicians always smear China one way or another, so Chinese Americans already got used to it. Also, a lot of Chinese Americans actually hate China government, sadly so.

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Old 05-26-2016, 11:38 PM
 
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In the 2012 presidential election, Barack Obama won 73 percent of the Asian American vote, exceeding his support among Hispanics (71 percent) and women (55 percent).


Between 2008 and 2012, Asians surpassed Latinos as the most quickly growing immigrant group, and, like Latinos, they voted for Obama


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...for-democrats/
Obama is not Hillary. Many Obama voters regretted too.

They are the most quickly growing group only because Americans lump Chinese, Koreans, Japanese, Indians, Pakistanis, Arabs, Iranians....in "Asians". A false concept to being with.

I would argue Indians, Iranians and Arabs look like Mexicans, not Chinese.
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Old 05-26-2016, 11:43 PM
 
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I find Chinese Americans very interesting.


While most don't vote in the Presidential election, I think they are more likely to vote in city and county elections(compared to white Americans). In my local area, the Chinese Americans are really active in city politics. County as well, state not so much but I think my state is the first maybe only state to have a Chinese American Governor.


They tend to be Democratic by a huge margin, my guess is 3/4 are Democrats. BUT most of them are fiscally conservative and for traditional marriage. Many always complain about the over spending by local government and they know the details. Traditional marriage for most Chinese Americans is something they won't budge on. I always wondered what are the main reasons for them to be Democrats, I have not found a overly common theme among them.


Those that like the Communist Party are Democrat supporters, yes there are Chinese Americans who openly support the Chinese Communist Party, it is really strange.
There used to be many illegal immigrants from Asia. They wanted amnesty and depended on welfare, to some extent.

Now the Chinese do not come illegally any more, and most new immigrants are well educated and/or wealthy. They totally changed.
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Old 05-26-2016, 11:55 PM
 
Location: Silicon Valley, CA
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I find Chinese Americans very interesting.


While most don't vote in the Presidential election, I think they are more likely to vote in city and county elections(compared to white Americans). In my local area, the Chinese Americans are really active in city politics. County as well, state not so much but I think my state is the first maybe only state to have a Chinese American Governor.


They tend to be Democratic by a huge margin, my guess is 3/4 are Democrats. BUT most of them are fiscally conservative and for traditional marriage. Many always complain about the over spending by local government and they know the details. Traditional marriage for most Chinese Americans is something they won't budge on. I always wondered what are the main reasons for them to be Democrats, I have not found a overly common theme among them.


Those that like the Communist Party are Democrat supporters, yes there are Chinese Americans who openly support the Chinese Communist Party, it is really strange.

Well, maybe there are politicians who listen to what they want.

Democrats aren't necessarily aligned with the Communist Party, that's an old McCarthyist saw.

You know Nancy Pelosi, the Democratic House Leader from San Francisco? She has had a very long track record of criticizing China for its human rights record. Pelosi's district includes Chinatown, and many of Chinatown's residents fled China from the Communists - so being hard with China is popular there. I'll agree that SF's Chinatown is very, very well organized politically.

Contrast that with her Senate counterpart and fellow San Franciscan, Dianne Feinstein, once mayor of San Francisco, who is one of the most China-friendly members of Congress around. She's tight with former Chinese leader Jiang Zemin, who was mayor of Shanghai when they established sister city relations. Her husband Dick Blum has made a lot of investments over in China.

In any case, today's China isn't all that communist anymore. In some ways, you can argue that they're more capitalist than we are here!

It's a myth that Democratic politicians and constituent groups are fiscal spendthrifts, have libertine lifestyles, or aren't family value conservatives.

Governor Jerry Brown of California has always been a bit of a skinflint when it comes to fiscal issues.

Many African Americans (as loyal and solid Democratic constituency as any) are very culturally conservative and very religious.
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Old 05-27-2016, 12:03 AM
 
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"I once was a slave before and I will never be one again." -Lily Tang Williams


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxNwsWYuObg

Libertarian running for U.S. Senate in Colorado.
That lady is brilliant. I'd vote for her if I lived there. She has first-hand experience of what collectivism really means. I loved the story of her talking to the guy in the Mao t-shirt. I wonder if it changed his opinion.
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Old 05-27-2016, 12:03 AM
 
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I posted a photo, that shows yes.
American politicians always smear China one way or another, so Chinese Americans already got used to it. Also, a lot of Chinese Americans actually hate China government, sadly so.
Chinese Americans don't have to like the Chinese government to be concerned with US politicians criticizing China.

The problem is when American politicians (and a considerable part of the American public) starts to use enmity, hostility or suspicion of China (in terms of geopolitics, economic rivalry) and translate that into scapegoating or suspicion of Chinese Americans as loyal citizens, or as a fifth column.

Look at the Wen Ho Lee affair. After he got canned from the Los Alamos National Laboratory, a lot of other Asian Americans at defense research labs fell under suspicion, and saw their career paths blocked or were forced out. It's because of that I have undying hatred and loathing for Bill Richardson.
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